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Damnatory Arbitration (lemmy.kde.social)
submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by ulterno@lemmy.kde.social to c/gaming@lemmy.ml

Image shows screenshot of XCOM2: War of The Chosen: Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Terms of Service, with an added Mandatory Arbitration clause in Section 15.

Came back to the game after a year or so, just to see this:

Shows how to opt-out

At least they let us disagree to the ToC. Not sure if I can play the game after that though, since I just exited after clicking the disagree button.

Also, at least they show us the changes on the top, so we know what happened.

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[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 16 points 6 months ago

This is a rough post because neither did you provide alt text for these non mobile friendly pictures nor did you put any emphasis or mention what you actually are trying to say or ask.

From what I have gathered after readin through it, US citizens are being asked to waive their rights to class actions or any form of jury trial for any reason whatsoever.

This absolutely is reason to boycott them and make a giant fuss about it but I would ask that you or someone makes this a lot easier to grasp in like 15 seconds so peeps dont just scroll over it.

Good luck and have a nice day.

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 5 points 6 months ago

Thanks for the constructive criticism.

alt text for these non mobile friendly pictures

Yeah, I miserably failed at that part. Tried to add the alt text, but looks like I did it the wrong way so it didn't work.

mention what you actually are trying to say or ask

Just wanting to let people know about another instance of Mandatory Arbitration. After hitting Post, I did realise that I should have included the game's name, which I missed because I first posted this to an XCOM2 sub.

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 6 months ago

Got it. Thanks for adding the info.

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

Not just us, everywhere except the few places they listed

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 6 months ago

You mean the few places in the whole of europe? :)

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

I guess it's not that few but still not much compared to the entire world

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 6 months ago

US citizens are being asked to waive their rights to class actions or any form

You don't need to be in the US for that.
I am not.

I fail to understand why they feel the need to do this, considering people are not just suing these companies willy-nilly.

But if you look closely, they don't mention anywhere that this Mandate is only with regards to this specific product (XCOM2 in this case), which makes me think, all of these companies are planning to do some problematic thing separately and then use this to escape the consequences.

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 6 months ago

You very much need to be in the US for this (or another capitalist hellscape). Reason being that this is illegal in europe.

They need to do this. They choose to so they cant be sued for using dark patterns most likely.

These companies need to be shut down. They’re pure evil at this point.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago

It's absurd that this is legal (assuming it is). How can it be just to have customers waive their right to access the justice system?

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's also illegal (in writing) to have a random sticker on a screw of an appliance, stating "Warranty void if removed".
Doesn't stop anyone from using it to escape warrantying user stuff, simply because it is not enforced well enough.

[-] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

WHEN LAWYERS WRITE IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS IT MEANS WHATEVER THEY ARE SAYING IS SUPER DUPER LEGAL AND NO ONE CAN EVER QUESTION IT.

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social -4 points 6 months ago

Same post on reddit

But since you are here, prefer answering here.

this post was submitted on 05 May 2024
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