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And Hannah Montana is the lie of it being accessible to new players.

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[–] swoley@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Roll a Gardening Lore check.

[–] swoley@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

As a trained grass toucher, I have proficiency so that would be: rolls dice 22 total.

[–] CaptainWitless@ttrpg.network 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

this is certainty one of the takes of all time

[–] Yora@diyrpg.org 3 points 2 years ago

Of all time!

[–] Lazerbeams2@ttrpg.network 22 points 2 years ago

Where funny?

[–] off_brand_@beehaw.org 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

2e is weirder and more sexualized

My man did not play the same PF1e that I did.

Also, both games achieve different things. Neither is "better', you just like 1e more, congrats.

[–] Nerorero@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] off_brand_@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago
[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's.. more.. sexualized? What? Could you explain that part to me lmao

[–] Nerorero@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They just are old enough now to understand that paizo is a proud lgbt+ supporter and blame 2e

[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Kinda my thoughts but I wanted to see if it was actually just "PF2E bad because it's canon is inclusive" or if there was something I was missing.

[–] RavindraNemandi@ttrpg.network 8 points 2 years ago

This is a fever dream take lol

My man. The only group I've ever convinced to play GURPS had previously preferred Shadowrun 5e and Pathfinder 1e for all the highly specific rules. But your autism levels are clearly higher than any of us

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Meanwhile those who really know see 3.5e V3

[–] SocialistWombat@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago
[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago
[–] Nerorero@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

L take, oldheads stay mad and unbalanced

[–] Souplex@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

PF1 is 3X based and therefore unplayable garbage. PF2 is an actually functional game.

[–] Demographics@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago

Disagree, and you can pry my unplayable garbage from my cold dead hands

[–] Lag_Incarnate@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago

Take is too spicy. Would've worked better if you'd just kept to the fact that Billy Ray is plenty good if that's your style.

[–] Flushmaster@ttrpg.network -5 points 2 years ago

PF2e actually exists because of D&D 5e. 5e is a streamlined and (most people believe) improved version of 3.5, which is exactly what PF1e is under a different label. But to appeal to their rebellious hipster demographic the new PF had to be different and innovative. So you get a bunch of overly complex rules for options and the sake of just being like D&D but still totally not D&D. The result is a decent game that definitely isn't 5e because it intentionally trades off most of the streamlining that makes 5e more approachable for the sake of complexity and options.

Basically it's a bunch of pretentious hipster BS.