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Imagine spending these money on something useful and not on war
Imagine a Russia that didn't make it necessary.
Russia is playing the same war games the west have been playing for decades, the cold war is still going.
Cutting war industry founds globally is how you invert the course. The more money you put into war and weapons of destruction the more war you get. Politicians and rulers seek war, it's a tool for them to get more power and money.
lol ah yes, we should simply cede to a dictator's territorial imperial annexation by... Weakening defense budgets? Remind me how the US annexed Iraq and Afghanistan as Russia did with Crimea, parts of Georgia, Chechyna?
And no, NATO is how you invert the course. Russia is too pussy to confront NATO's Article 5. So bring Ukraine into NATO.
So why don't you go tell Putin to cut his military budget?
This guy... Apparently thinks we should have rolled over when Hitler invaded Poland and the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.
Edit: Observe below how this user hops around with tangential points and half-truths, all the while avoiding the heart of the matter: They believe we should just give in to the dictator — whether it's the Hitler of old or the Putin of recent. Further observe how they have no response to the fact that NATO countries have never been directly attacked by Russia, giving proof to the power of a Defensive Alliance.
Who is we? Are you ukrainian? are you russian? are you american?
"defense budget" is a misleading name for weapons designed to attack, destroy and kill humans.
NATO is a terrorist organization on pair with russia, lead by corrupted people who seek war as a tool to get more power and wealth.
Let's talk about the present, no need to bring the past back
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Globke
Cope harder. You’re either working for Russia or a useful idiot. Same thing in the end, really
I just called out NATO and russia as terrorists organization in the previous post and you claim that i work for them. No offense but if there's anyone who seem an idiot that's you and your conclusions.
For now, but KremlinGPT will only get better, unfortunately.
Great how are you going to implement and enforce that globally? This sounds similar to the goals of the league of nations, and we all know how that turned out.
A good start would be to stop encouraging the spending in public forums.
Again, we've seen the league of nations fail. They arguably had more momentum than "random users of an Internet forum discouraging government spending on military"
Do you have an idea for how this would be enforced?
Nah this is a bargain, it would be irresponsable to not do it really.
Ukraine did that and look at what happened to it. What would have happened if someone else hadn't spent on defense and willing to help out? All slaves.
They dumped billions on war just like everyone else: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html
If nations wouldn't be playing war games and spending billions of public money on war there would be no war to begin with.
You know the war started in 2014 when putin invaded Crimea unimpeded, because Ukraine did not have an army, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Forces_of_Ukraine
Talk to them about the state of the armed forces in 2014 and understand that pacifism is only great when your neighbours are pacifist too.
You are misleading pacifism with peace. Peace should be everyone ultimate goal and you don't achieve it by giving public money to authoritarian governments and mass producing weapons designed to destroy and kill humans. Western rules have the same interests other rulers have in waging war and piling up wealth and power. Look at their support for the genocide in gaza or for regimes like saudi arabia. They don't give a shit about people or peace, they crave for power and are in a position where they can get as much as they want. Taunting your neighbours into conflict is what they have been doing for centuries. If you don't want to learn about the cold war just look at what israel government is doing right now in gaza.
It's been nearly 2.5 years since the bombing of Kiev, if that did not change your mind, nothing will, so I'll just respectfully shut up.