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We talked stuff that works you up, how about things that you do to calm down? What techniques, activities, mantras, stims, etc. do you do to keep yourself comfortable and safe? Feel free to share what you'd like - and something kinda cool is that you might end up helping someone else down the line.

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[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah that mouse study is crazy. Its like the better things are the worse they are. I knew what it was going to be before I clicked it. Mouse utopia to dystopia just like us. I get your girlfriend but again I still estimate the top to be 4 billion if we did things perfectly with our current technology (currrently in practice technology) Its possible advances outside the lab could get us further but we are overfishing as it is and its not like we are using fish for a bunch of industrial practices Heck people are even avoiding eating to much fish due to the health issues. If everyone on the planet ate a healthy amount of fish (lets not bring vegan things into this for purposes of argumentation on this theoretical we will assume a varied omnivore kind of diet) we would have to catch more than we have now at 8 billion. Now if petri dish fish gets to be a thing maybe that is no longer a blocker but we all know there will be some percentage, and maybe a high one, that will insist on it coming from the animal and the petri dish is unnatural. Like the population and those in existence we can't just take out anyone who is not compliant. Its much easier to encourage not reproducing. Im not to worried about the young having to support the old. I really don't want to saddle kids with that responsibility anyway and much like with the way of doing things environment wise there are plenty of humans that will keep the meat worker train going.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

I actually wonder about this. Because I am a complicated character, that enjoys eating vegetarian to vegan food (It's hard to break away from eggs on account of rice -> eggs kinda being programmed into my mind as the best breakfast). But I've eaten most things by this point (outside of frogs, seems stupid to eat your luck away) and I would agree that eating more fish is good (on paper?) I am not sure if it's sustainable though, because didn't the North East of North America kill off their fish by overfishing? So it has to be paired with sustainability. But I also heard something about how direly polluted our waters are currently and that it's being leaked into the fish. BUT!!!!! I also think a lot of Americans on the whole do not like seafood unless it's mashed, breaded and fried and that's always been a strange affair to me.

I talked about the petri-meat on here before. I think it's really crazy that most people I know don't even eat real food - and I am sure it's not just my folks living in isolation. I really think most Americans on the whole do not eat real food - and yet people are freakin' livid that the thing they're eating that is substantially meat didn't once live breathe or suffer for the cause...of feeding humans? Kinda weird stuff, but I can't say much because I do get how food companies bastardize food until it's just a slurry of diabetes inducing shit. I think more people like me are coming about and becoming nature's birth control. That's how I always saw myself, because I really had no interest in children ever. But equally, I think there's been studies showing that gay kids tend to act sort of as such. But idk, because I've known plenty of gays who want babies. I think it's more of a personal thing now.

We've always sort of had the system where the young take care of the old, and I do actually believe we have a duty to care for those who need assistance. And I mean it in all forms. But at the end of the day, I am not really sure of the systems we can put in place to do so. It's perhaps one of the biggest brain-teasers of my own life. Because I am not sure what is going to happen when I age. But bleakest outcome is - if I get sick and there is some sort of legalized assisted suicide - bing there. But I really do have this feeling like "I've so much to give." And have heard even Buddhist monks express mortal terror in the face of death. So humans, as a whole are just funny little creatures and we're throwing our shit all over the place but I think we're acting up because we're all (for the most part) a little scared and pretty burnt out by the way modern society has moved us against ourselves for such an extended period of time.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 3 months ago

I so get your last paragraph as that how it is with me. One of my goals with buddhist philosophy and mediation is just acceptance of death as I to would like to be able to decide to do it before life becomes to miserable. I also get your second paragraph although my experience is with my wife on eating bugs. Im like im all for it in processed foods (she is a no way, no how type and is actually the same with petri dish meat). Does it matter what the chocolate protein powder is made from if it tastes good. Will the high protein cricket pizza crust matter. I may not want to eat one whole but once its ground down to powder and mixed with other things its just protein. As for the first paragraph I would love to be sorta a lacto-ovo fruitarian. I view milk and eggs to be like fruit of the animal. That being said I am lazy and weak. Coming to terms with my inability to stop eating meat changed my mind about fictional tropes actually. Vampires. I used to think. Oh come now just don't drink human blood. Now though I think of how meat is with me and I think that if I became a vampire im not sure I would have the strength of character to not prey on the humans I used to be.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

Munchy, crunchy cicadas and crickets =P! You know in the situation you're talking it's a processing of organic ingredients. Which is way different (and actually pretty healthy) as compared to things like the fire-retardant I just saw them pulling out of sodas in the US (thanks PieFed!). Fruitarians I've met have always been peaceful souls but you've got to be careful because I am not entire sure about the balance of the meal. It's why I get the concept behind a majority plant-based diet as a whole. Because vegetables seem to be the simplest way to shovel nutrients and fiber down your gullet. But I will also say, and idgaf what anyone else says - it's freakin' HARD to keep up on your protein. And likewise, it's really easy to miss the mark on certain things. Like I bleed like a stuck pig on my period (whee!) and getting my iron back no matter how much kale I shove into my face always seems like an uphill battle. I was actually medically advised to be omni, and that's where I am sitting even though my grumpy cheating ass always peddles back. (Just don't tell nobody). But I will eat chicken sometimes (sigh) and I will be like - oh okay - this is why humans eat meat protein. So they can have puppy power, I get it now.

But most days I am just shoving piles of beans down my throat and smiling like a fiend because eating meat literally makes me gag...which I think you might be talking about right there =P! I often wonder (and worry) about how many dystopian science fiction theories are going to come true. Because universally, across our societies - once we left bands and tribes - we really stopped being egalitarian in form. And instead became something far worse and exploitative. And I am worried (and yes I know we've always been exploitative of people in other countries and to some extent) that capitalism isn't going to stop until the human spirit is demolished.

That was fun food for thought at the bottom there, it's got me cheesin' over here! By the by, my mom is in a vegan food cult (as I calls it) - and so I get it. My mom won't touch a damn thing unless it's like next-level "clean."

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 3 months ago

depending on how often you cheat you may not be able to handle the meat. I had a friend who I thought was vegan as she pretty much said she was but turns out she was just against factory farming. So we had this friends thanksgiving and got a wild caught goose and she had some and well. She did not feel well when it hit her stomach but she had not had meat in years, possibly over a decade.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

Oh yeah for sure, I remember I had been a while without meat but wanted to eat something my mom made when I went home and I got so sick that I spent the rest of the day with a fever just gripping my stomach and knocked out on the couch. It was beef, and I think it did me in some kind of way, because I was just in another world after eating it. I think about it some times, but also my gal says pretty often she just thinks my body wasn't made for meat @_@!!!

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