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It sounds way less offensive to those who decry the original terminology's problematic roots but still keeps its meaning intact.

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[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 62 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Until proven otherwise, I assume either ignorance or malicious intentions by those who want to rename these "problematic" terms. It does nothing to improve the actual issues.

The false pretense of having done something, is worse than doing nothing. It's just noise.

To be clear: I don't mind the changing of terms. I'm too old to care about trivial stuff like main vs master. But if the reasoning for such a change is dumb and potentially harmful, you've lost my respect.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There is stuff that was bad, white/blacklist doesn't make much sense, when the universal "code" for allow/disallow are green and red. Allow and deny list are much better name.

Master main, is fine by me, doesnt make much sense to call it master, its only the main branch nothing else.

Shit that didnt make sense was stuff like removing community episodes from netflix, because or "blackface" without any consideration of why its there or whether it has value, just blanket ban, it was stupid af.

[-] sudneo@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago

Totally discussing useless stuff here, but green and red to me give the feeling of temporary actions (and possibly alternating). Intuitively sounds more like slowing and speeding than it does permanently blocking or allowing something.

Black and white have the polar opposite meaning. At this point allowlist and blocklist might be a simpler solution to the "problem".

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago

Blacklist is a word that goes back to the 17th century. The origin had nothing to do with ethnicity, it had to do with whether someone was against the monarchy during the English Revolution.

Seems weird to remove words from existence out of fear that someone (who's probably acting in bad faith) might take a bad meaning from it.

[-] sudneo@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

I agree, personally.

In general I feel the words are so abstract (blacklist and whitelist) that I can't really see how someone will see some other meaning...

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Main one to me is you can't have a grey area in between without black and white to compare it against.

[-] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 1 points 2 months ago

Probably because those are traditionally traffic light colors, used to indicate success or failure.

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