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So you all get mad and cry a lot when you think Green Party people may "spoil" Democrats votes. Do you have the same venom for third parties that may "spoil" Repubican votes?
Or is it ok when someone does it to the OTHER party, just not yours?
the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"
The whole reason third parties and spoilers are bad is for their impact, not some inherent issue with their existence. In the case of left-presenting third parties, the impact is bad. In the case of right-presenting third parties, the impact is good. Good things and bad things are different.
Ohhhh, so you're saying that you're fine with third parties when they negatively impact the Republicans. But you don't like them when they negatively impact the Democrats.
Hmmm.
That's so strange because I have been accused of being a russian asset for posting third party news. People wondering what my agenda is. Being accused of being a Trump fan. People saying that I MUST be getting paid in "russian bitcoins," etc
UNLESS it's bad for the Repubilcans. Then suddenly, upvotes. So it's NOT about third parties. It's because you guys are pissed when someone doesn't vote for your side. lol
Let's talk about hypocrisy next, guys!
It's only hypocrisy if they do things that disagree with their own views, and their own views are internally conistent in this case. Their view is not that all third parties are bad, their view is that third parties that have a negative impact are bad. So it doesn't make it hypocrisy just because it disagrees with your straw man of their views.
That sure isn't the heat I was catching these last few days. It was definitely "third parties are bad!"
Under plurality voting, third parties are objectively bad for the winning chances of whatever party they pull more voters from (and/or bad for whatever major party you personally would vote for, if you personally vote third party). That might be what some people meant by them being "bad", even though they prefer one of those major parties to win (and cheer on anything that makes the other party less likely to win). Although it's certainly possible that some people just think they are bad in general. People do have different opinions, after all.
Agreed. But people definitely were not thinking that way when they said I was a russian asset troll, just because posted some news articles about the Green Party.