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EDIT: I didn't notice in the original post, the article is from 2023

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/19707239

Researchers have documented an explosion of hate and misinformation on Twitter since the Tesla billionaire took over in October 2022 -- and now experts say communicating about climate science on the social network on which many of them rely is getting harder.

Policies aimed at curbing the deadly effects of climate change are accelerating, prompting a rise in what experts identify as organised resistance by opponents of climate reform.

Peter Gleick, a climate and water specialist with nearly 99,000 followers, announced on May 21 he would no longer post on the platform because it was amplifying racism and sexism.

While he is accustomed to "offensive, personal, ad hominem attacks, up to and including direct physical threats", he told AFP, "in the past few months, since the takeover and changes at Twitter, the amount, vituperativeness, and intensity of abuse has skyrocketed".

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 2 months ago

Considering Meta is doubling down on disinformation, more people should go to Mastodon and Bsky over Threads or Twitter.

[-] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 months ago

Is blue sky really ok? Considering who started it...

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago

i don't think jack funded it he was just an original board member; but he left the board a month or two ago.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

I'd agree. For now at least it's pretty good.

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Hell no, fuck Bluesky. There is no reason not to adopt ActivityPub when trying to build an open, federated Twitter alternative. Except for power and control over the platform, its core protocol and ecosystem. Screw these guys, use Mastodon or anything on the Fediverse.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

except they adopted atproto because it fixed issues with activitypub portability and sharing

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

This is their stupid excuse. They could still implement ActiviyPub as a secondary federation protocol. (Bluesky <-> Bluesky via ATProto, Bluesky <-> Fediverse via ActivityPub). They decided against it. It's an intentional choice, and they're just making up excuses.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

i mean that's pretty much already done via third party and endorsed by the bsky team (i can already follow mastodon users on bsky and bsky users on mastodon);

https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed

(shameless self promotion; my bsky account on my mastodon instance: https://tech.lgbt/@netkitten.net@bsky.brid.gy)

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

There are 3 issues with this:

  1. This is a third-party project, not an official part of Bluesky. Bluesky was never meant to work with ActivityPub, that was a clear design choice. This is just a workaround.
  2. It's opt-in, meaning most accounts will never get federated, because people just aren't aware that something like this exists. This especially applies to new users.
  3. It relies on a centralized service, Bluesky and ActivityPub servers don't talk directly to each other, which would be required for true federation. Federation is always decentralized, this is the exact opposite.

I don't understand why anyone should use Bluesky with cheap hacks to attempt to fix Bluesky's poor design choices and or utter incompetence, if they could just use Mastodon and federate with the Fediverse over ActivityPub by default.

From a user perspective, Bluesky is just Mastodon with a recommendation algorithm. There is no other protocol required for this, everything could easily be done using ActivityPub exclusively. I will never care about Bluesky, since it tries to be the new Twitter, but the enshittification of Twitter began when they introduced their crappy algorithm, instead of just displaying tweets of accounts you follow in chronological order (like Mastodon does it).

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

to be fair it was originally not opt in but it was mastodon users who made an issue about it and forced the opt in version

and bsky has multiple algorithms because individual issues can create lists and feeds tailored to their needs.

it also has a straight forward following feed

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