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First of all, I have more in common with atheists than religious people, so my intention isn't to come here and attack, I just want to hear your opinions. Maybe I'm wrong, I'd like to hear from you if I am. I'm just expressing here my perception of the movement and not actually what I consider to be facts.

My issue with atheism is that I think it establishes the lack of a God or gods as the truth. I do agree that the concept of a God is hard to believe logically, specially with all the incoherent arguments that religions have had in the past. But saying that there's no god with certainty is something I'm just not comfortable with. Science has taught us that being wrong is part of the process of progress. We're constantly learning things we didn't know about, confirming theories that seemed insane in their time. I feel like being open to the possibilities is a healthier mindset, as we barely understand reality.

In general, atheism feels too close minded, too attached to the current facts, which will probably be obsolete in a few centuries. I do agree with logical and rational thinking, but part of that is accepting how little we really know about reality, how what we considered truth in the past was wrong or more complex than we expected

I usually don't believe there is a god when the argument comes from religious people, because they have no evidence, but they could be right by chance.

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[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No. You're putting excessive burdens on this one topic that you REALLY care about.

I listed a bunch of examples of other things that I am certain of, but if I discovered new evidence, it would change my position. Let's review:

I'm sure my wife isn't trying to kill me. IF I find half a bottle of rat poison on the kitchen counter, and later she insists that I eat THIS SPECIAL BOWL OF CHILI JUST FOR ME. I'm not going to be as certain as I was before.

I'm sure there's no God. IF he comes down, introduces himself and does some sweet magic shit or brings my favorite cat back to life, I'd definitely change my position.

But those things haven't happened, and I do not think about the possibility of them ever happening, so I'm confident in my choices. I have no reason to doubt them.

This question is SUPER important to YOU, and YOU haven't decided what YOU believe. Which is fine, but that doesn't mean that everyone else needs to remain as uncertain as you. Once you've made your decision, you will be certain of it, until something makes you question your assumptions.

[-] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I have no belief. I don't need to pick sides on a topic I have no knowledge about. With the limited understanding we have of reality, I think any outcome is equally likely to be true. I have no knowledge that tells me a creator exists or doesn't exist.

"Atheism, in the broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities." (Wikipedia)

I guess I'd be the first type of atheist if I were to use that label. Just lack of belief.

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