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We put arbitrary age limitations on seemingly everything, from voting to watching a movie. When we have no age limits on something, stories always come up about a young kid who is capable and competent.
So why do we even have those age limits? We have adults of 30+ who are way more immature than some 12 year olds. Just seems like needless limitation on the rights of kids.
The real exception to this I suppose are things like age limits on joining the military or giving consent.
Most adults are functionally retarded and can barely drive a car. These kids are the exception. Most humans are incredibly stupid.
the kids are also incredibly stupid. I saw about 15 of them throwing open sizzers 20-30 feet up a brick wall so they could catch it with their bare hands not even a week ago
No the kid is a statistic waiting to happen. There is absolutely no reason a 10 year old needs to do this other than bragging rights.
I like how being able to drive a car has become the metric that decides if you are retarded or not. Like come on. Cars are killing the planet and even if they weren't they are the most dangerous form of transport by far. Stop hyping cars.
Also you can have physical issues, coordination issues or attention issues that make driving difficult, but can still be more level headed than the average person.
like the dumb mfs that own cars like ford mustangs or dodge challengers and end up totaling their cars because the believed that they were the reincarnation of Ayrton Senna when in reality they can barely drive a shopping cart
The reason is to protect the physically or mentally weak from the strong while also having rules that are easy to follow and to enforce, that don't require psyche exams, which depend on the examiner.
Age might not be a good metric of evaluating maturity, but it is the best and most practically useful we have. (I use "maturity" here as having reached certain physically and mental level where they can operate, think and decide independent, and the risk of being manipulated is low.)
Because age is not a good metric, that means that we have false positives and false negatives on a maturity tests based on age, which we need to balance. And I would rather have more false negatives (wrongly ascertained immaturity) than false positives (wrongly ascertained maturity).
If someone comes up with a better and still practical maturity test, that would be interesting. "Solutions" like every citizen has to do a yearly physical and mental exam in order to keep their rights as an adult, seem much to harsh and easily manipulatable. Especially around blurry lines like disabilities.
Wherever certain thing needs a maturity test or not and where that should be, I cannot say. Just if the age limit is too high, then mental decline will raise the false positives, which would be bad as well.
I don’t think that is a fully-satisfying conclusion. If it held up to scrutiny, then we would also curtail the rights of the elderly in the same way, which in the overwhelming majority of cases we do not. We would do the same for people with relevant disabilities, which again in the majority of cases, we do not.
If someone proposed removing the right to vote from people with mental disabilities to “protect the mentally weak from the strong”, I’d like to think that we’d all see the problems with that. Why do we not feel the same way about the disenfranchisement of younger people?
Sure it isn't a good system, but it is the one we have. And if you have concrete improvement ideas, it would be interesting to hear.
I mean, where ever we set the age limit for instance voting to 14, some 10 or 9 year old will feel disenfranchised. We could remove it completely and let toddlers vote. What would the consequences of that be? I have no idea!