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[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

They're against environmental regulation and climate change policy?

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago

Holy shit you are absolutely relentless. I dunno how I feel about it, but damn.

Stop, stop! He's already dead!

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm tired of all the pseudo intellectuals hijacking every conversation with feels and never providing concrete examples of anything. They'll dance and dance around general topics and never give us specifics because they know they can get away with saying anything. It's an effective way to build up narratives without having to be held responsible for anything.

They'll never give a clear context or path to how / why / where because they know they can talk in generalities and move on. They're here to stay and either we can all roll over into the post-modern "truth is just a construct world" or we can push back.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 month ago

Kamala literally bragged about increasing gas production to an all time high, yes.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Give the whole stance. What else is tied into that policy? If you want to talk policy, let's go. But first you have to prove you know what the full policy or statement is. I'm waiting.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 month ago

Do I really need to? Because increasing gas production is not a good thing for the climate, and bragging about doing something that's damaging the climate seems like a pretty clear indication that you're not really committed to addressing climate change. The fact that she says whatever nice words about it doesn't matter, talk is cheap.

But her whole statement is here

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

I didn't ask for her debate statement. I asked for her full policy. Yes, you really need to understand how American policy and legislation is formed before we can continue the conversation.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 month ago

I understand how American policy is formed well enough to know that policy statements on the campaign trail rarely actually manifest into anything. But here's her statement from the campaign website, just for you:

spoiler

As Attorney General, Kamala Harris won tens of millions in settlements against Big Oil and held polluters accountable. As Vice President, she cast the tie-breaking vote to pass the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest investment in climate action in history. This historic work is lowering household energy costs, creating hundreds of thousands of high-quality clean energy jobs, and building a thriving clean energy economy, all while ensuring America’s energy security and independence with record energy production. As President, she will unite Americans to tackle the climate crisis as she builds on this historic work, advances environmental justice, protects public lands and public health, increases resilience to climate disasters, lowers household energy costs, creates millions of new jobs, and continues to hold polluters accountable to secure clean air and water for all. As the Vice President said at the international climate conference, COP28, she knows that meeting this global challenge will require global cooperation and she is committed to continuing and building upon the United States’ international climate leadership. She and Governor Walz will always fight for the freedom to breathe clean air, drink clean water, and live free from the pollution that fuels the climate crisis.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Yes, politicians have to run on policies and positions. They have to espouse those positions on the campaign trail.

Do you understand the president does not enact legislation? I need you to address this before we go any further. I need you to explain what the difference is between the presidency and congress.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I will, but first I need you to explain something to me to prove that you're qualified to have a conversation with me. Explain the difference between peepee and poopoo. Otherwise it will prove you don't know the difference, this conversation will be over, and I will declare victory.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Uh oh. Someone doesn't understand what the US president is and is entitled to give opinions on social media. I know, American civics is hard. What time is it in Mokba?

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 month ago

Where is Mokba? It's 2:30 AM here in Illinois.

I can't believe you don't even understand the difference between peepee and poopoo. They literally teach this stuff to preschoolers.

[-] Krono@lemmy.today -2 points 1 month ago

Yes, under the Biden administration we set a new record for fossil fuel extraction. Biden is giving out so many drilling permits, there are thousands that are unfilled.

We are on pace to make earth uninhabitable.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Oh wow. An entire economic system based on a particular source of energy cannot be course corrected over night. Oh wow... Policy change is not easy, is. It? Huh. Who knew?

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