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AOC is right: Jill Stein’s campaign is not serious
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We are not in a black and white situation. You can vote for a third party or use your time to do something more useful than endorsing online the red and blue party
They are supporting a genocide and arming israel government. These are their policies. Why don't you try to change trump policies?
Israel already has same of the best weapons available. It could be worst and they could receive nukes but you seem to not realize how bad the situation already is.
If this is your argument to keep voting for the red and blue party i would like to remind you that the US government under any administration cycling in power has ties with dictators around the world who are worst than putin like saudi royals.
Endorsing the political parties that for years have enriched corporations and shit on people misery and rights doesn't seem the best way to address these problems.
Who is "we"? are you a member of the democrat party? What's your plan to support the end of the genocide once elections are over?
Read what I said again. Situations themselves may be black or white, the choices we are presented with in those situations aren't always so clear cut. In this case I, and many just like me, feel the best thing we can do for the World is stop Trump and the larger GOP party. They are currently that dangerous.
As for weapon deals:
These are historical acts done by every President since, fuck, I'm actually not sure. It's been a hella long time though. Note though that wars and conflict have historically been supported most heavily by the Right.
I'd like to point out I'm only interested in voting for the better potential future for all of us. If I thought Republicans were the choice I'd vote them. However, Democrats have made it quite obvious that while they have their faults, they aren't literally promising to do worse.
I'm beginning to notice you're cherry picking responses and not being fair. Go on, compare how the GOP has acted in regards to the livelihood and lives of others. Can you say: Abortion ban? Contraceptive restrictions? Lynching? The motherfucking coup attempt?
What's your plan if Trump and the GOP head the nation in a few months and things get worse? Personally, I expect your kind to suddenly go quiet in embarrassment and shame, or fear if you're smart.
You're wrong. Not about Gaza, that shit is absolutely evil. About your priorities. Just like those on the Right, you stand so firm on your tiny little pedestal that you're convinced your perspective is the only right one. We have a choice between possibly making things better and a guarantee they'll get worse. You're just so damned stuck that even if you saw merit in my argument you wouldn't admit it for fear of seeming like you're in support of the genocide. In reality, by obfuscating the narrative and causing division, you may find yourself an ally of, if not far greater evil acts, then much more of the same dotted through hundreds of communities and threatened the world over.
Nothing will ever change if things stay exactly as they are. You seem in good faith but you seem to not have realize yet how much rigged the system around you is. Evil has no allies among good
I do agree with you. Change is needed. However, the timing is wrong. This is why I don't denounce your perspective, only your timing.
It's election time and there's a genocide going on as we speak. Suit yourself and wait
And the rest of the world could take it upon themselves to do something. Yet, as with every major election, people just like you are tricked into ignoring the problems we must face here, to fix other issues elsewhere. There is always a conflict. Always.
But hey, be a proxy to the problem, world cop. I won't stop you, can't stop you. I can tell you you're wrong. Shitty as it is we're making a disgusting choice to not jeopardize an election against a fascist state. I'm sorry if you feel so strongly that the minorities, LGBTQ+ community, women, and the children of this country aren't worth your time. Them and others are the ones we are trying to protect, along with the rest of the world which will suffer if the U.S. falls into fascism.
If you are against a fascist state you should look at third parties or else
Uh-huh. And in a two party system where one side has been proven beyond doubt to be worse, you want us to vote third party while that side literally promises fascism if they win.
Yeah sure, and while I do that I'll donate $20 to charity and believe over half of it actually goes to the cause.
You see, all you 3rd party types never put in the work. You just come scuttling out of a dark corner every four years, yell about it, do literally nothing except confuse people and steal a few votes, and then disappear. No work in local elections, hardly a peep in off years, zero long term commitment to build a base. All of it derailment and disillusionment.
You want change? Shut up and do the work.
They are both fascists, if your concern is fascism don't vote for them