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10-year-old Fatima Jaafar Abdullah was killed in pager explosions in Lebanon.

Israel murders another kid again.

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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

You can't track a pager.

A mobile tower will send it a message, but since there's no two-way communication, theres no way to track where the pager received the message. (Even if it was a two-way one, you need at least three good points of connection to be able to triangulate it.)

So how exactly do you identify who's using a pager you don't even know the location of?

You obviously don't know how tracking works.

Ditto

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org -4 points 1 month ago

By tracking who sent what to whom?

If you know the phone number of a Hisbollah member and they send messages to a set of pagers, these are likely Hisbollah pagers. If you do that to several phone numbers, you get a pretty comprehensive list of members. You don't need to know, where exactly they are. That's simply not relevant.

And again: if it's a supply chain attack, you don't even need these contacts. Just a single entry point into the supply chain of the organization.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

By tracking who sent what to whom?

And since tracking the devices is actually impossible, how would you know which pager is where and held by whom,

Say one of the pagers wasn't delivered to the person who you "know" it to belong to. Say it got dropped in front of a school. Say another person who has one and even is a Hezbollah member, is visiting a children's hospital, because they're people too and usually have reasons to fight (even if their fighting style is immoral to some). Say another is eating dinner with his family. Etc. Etc. Etc.

There's no way to verify any of that. It's basically just as bad if not worse than carpet-bombing. Unless you implant a device like this on a person and then have surveillance on that person to know where they are and who with when you detonate the device, you're probably doing a war crime.

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