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“Jill Stein is a useful idiot for Russia. After parroting Kremlin talking points and being propped up by bad actors in 2016 she’s at it again,” DNC spokesman Matt Corridoni said in a statement to The Bulwark. “Jill Stein won’t become president, but her spoiler candidacy—that both the GOP and Putin have previously shown interest in—can help decide who wins. A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.”

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[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 113 points 1 month ago

Jill is here to collect some donations then disappear for 4 years. Again.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

As someone in a state where my presidential vote is very much decided... I voted Gary Johnson in 2016. I know there are a lot of very real critiques of the libertarian party and/or platform, but it's really sad the green party puts it to shame... it's not a high bar.

My point being... wtf is she still doing doing this stuff? Libertarians push local candidates all the damn time, and make a push for the presidential seat when they can, but soundly rejected Trump, and hell, even in 2016 you had the VP libertarian cantidate saying "vote Hillary". Like I am upset as anyone else, but if you're still in the green party you're just kidding yourself... and thats from a freaking libertarian that hates his party a good 50% of the time.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I absolutely despise libertarians. But I approve this message.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Lol. I get it. I've said it before and I'll say it a million more times I'm sure: it's got a lot of problems, but I like the framework the NAP provides. It's explicit and provides a place to work from.

They're not all crazy "public roads are theft" folks. And again, remember the party soundly rejected trump. IME a lot of libertarians are generally supportive of social programs, so long as they're egalitarian.

But what really rustles jimmies is the cut and dry stuff. I will never be able to get over democrats being on the wrong side of gay marriage, even in the name of pragmatism. I'll support them out of pragmatism, but I'm bitter about it.

But to the point of this thread: very little of that matters if there's not a next election. I'll take the party that fumbled gay marriage in the late 2000s VS. The one that wants to kill my friends 1000/10 times.

And again to the point of this thread: it's telling, and gives me faith in my party, there is no "Garry Johnson" this year.

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