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You missed the point, no one should care. Celebrity worship is rampant and goes too far. Her being famous enough that her approach to politics being newsworthy is a problem. The relationship between entertainer and entertainee should cease when the last track on the album ends. Her being popular doesn't qualify her to speak on these subjects. It's the same hole that Trump crawled out of.
I think that's part of what she's saying. She's been very very open about not wanting to be worshipped. This all started with her saying she didn't endorse either candidate when asked in an interview and she's (rightfully) mad that people have blown that way out of proportions
That's nice, but you're addressing a fundamental flaw of humanity that hasn't been solved in a couple million years and won't be solved by just advocating for a solution. Celebrity worship/innate trust of those popular is quite literally the basis of all complex group human interaction. To solve it would require elimination of all non first-person methods of trust and understanding.
I'm not saying we don't listen to people, or upend all social contracts. I merely suggest we gravitate to the learned and educated for their informed opinions, not whoever this pop sensation is.
We will always disagree with who is educated and learned, especially given everyone we think ha s those qualities today will be the dumbest people tomorrow.
Which is also ridiculous, we should listen to those who know more.
Not really, we should come to our own conclusion regardless of what others say, especially in fields that cannot be solved or even partially explained by science, like politics.
That's a valid point. I got a buddy with a political science degree, so technically learned in this subject, and that guy is fuckin clueless.
And you being a nobody on the internet means your opinion is at least as meaningless as hers...yet here you are trying to convince everyone that your opinion is correct.
At least you agree our opinions should carry the same weight.
That's your take away from what I said? It's like you're trying to prove that your opinion should carry even less weight.
Yes, that's all I took away from what you said.
Well then, there is no combination of "our" in this case where I wouldn't bet on the other person's opinion carrying more weight.
From one nobody to another, cheers to the weightless.
The difference between you and I is that I'm not a nobody hypocritically telling other people to not try and publicly defend their beliefs.
That's all well and good, still a nobody though. Cheers.
I know, I wouldn't have it any other way. The only reason you think that's some kind of dig is because you are hung up about being a nobody yourself.
Nah, I understand my place in the world and nobody suits me fine, I was just trying to be cordial. I must say, you are quite proficient in ad hominem. I even forget the original discussion, was it taxes? In any case, given your predilection for underming lack of discussion with petty insults, might I suggest you take a look at a website called Reddit? I think you'd fit in there.
You're initial point was that she is a musician so nobody should care what she thinks, a straight up ad hominem, and now your whining about as hominems? I might be quite proficient at ad hominems, but your proficiency with hypocrisy puts mine to shame.
Ah, I see your confusion. Advocating for the dismissal of her opinion on grounds of her profession is not a slight on her character. I'm sure she's a very nice girl and a talented musician.
You see, ad hominem is an attack on someone's character to distract from the lack of merit in one's argument. I never slighted her as a person, ergo no ad hominem.
Now if I said she was stupid or ugly or talentless, therefore no one should listen to her, that would constitute an attack on her.
I hope this clears things up.