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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 130 points 10 months ago (7 children)

dumb cars will be worth their weight in gold soon

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 62 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Just like how manual cars became anti theft.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago

My friend has his Kia broken into and started, but it’s a standard so they ditched it hahaha

[–] TheOSINTguy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That's if you can find one for an affordable price.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I got a decent manual for about $12k back in February. And it was one of three on the lot I was there to look at all around that price: A GTI, a WRX, and a Mini.

I went with the GTI

[–] swag_money@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

right before the used car market exploded i got my manual Subaru for $3400 when it was worth about 10-12k because of a misfire. yeah it just had the wrong spark plugs in it :p and it's about as dumb as they come. it has a radio, abs, and cruise control - no other driving assists or telemetry

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The fun tax is real... except unllike the poster below, I was looking for a Base model Subaru and not the WRX (even though the WRX is a bucket list car)

[–] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

most car thiefs can't drive a manual transmission

[–] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

Oh right in the USA there are mostly automatic cars

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 10 months ago

Manual transmission is an anti theft device because car jackers can only drive automatic

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My car got dumbed for me because they killed the 3g network it was running on

[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Just because you can't use it doesn't mean a hacker can't. If someone discovered a vulnerability in the 3g handshake or encryption protocol, it could be an avenue for an RCE.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago

Especially when there are no security updates anymore. They should just rip out any possible receiver there is for mobile communication

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

Honestly if someone manages to figure that out I would want to know, that way I can finally use my cars remote start 😄

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wish, but most people don't know / care about this stuff, it's not going to really percolate into the public consciousness .

According to the dealership my car isn't worth it's weight grass clippings because it's too old.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago

lol it's not the dealers who will want them

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You could just find and disable the wireless modems.

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Cool just like trying to replace a blower motor in a modern car feel free to rip the entire dash out only to find out it has a second antenna all the way in the back underneath the spare tire also behind a tail light which somehow requires you to remove the muffler to get to....

[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or just pull this fuse for the module?

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

If you can.... Without breaking something vital thats on the same circuit as something so non-vital as turn signals or headlights. You know from the companies so smart as to not wire all... I mean all the positive hots through the ignition or light switch...... Nothing like an ignition that's 200°f.

[–] parpol@programming.dev 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You'd probably have more luck installing a signal jammer in your car.

The best you can hope for is a rootkit and some Linux-based OS for cars to be developed so you can take full control.

[–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

FWIW there is a cottage industry for OnStar disable/delete mods for GM vehicles. It can be done, usually without breaking too much else of the car's electronic functionality.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather poke the GSM modem with a screwdriver.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

if you can find it, and all it's backups..

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Also, jammers are illegal pretty much everywhere.

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Happy to have my 2012 civic. One of the last gens without a telemetry unit I think.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I drive a 2014 si

That Civic is hands down the most bulletproof, refined and perfected k-series car Honda ever produced, or ever will, at this point.

If anyone reading this wants a V6, find a manual TL. Equally bulletproof, but with a J-series and room to stretch out and they are CHEAP for zero reason on the market. I don't even understand it other than they don't really have tuning potential, but as a commuter car, they can't be beat for the price to comfort. They ride like clouds and have 300hp to punch with if you stomp them down an offramp.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The car will still work if you take the radio out or put a faraday cage around it, maybe that'll become a thing in the future, but that might fuck with the paid charging infrastructure for EVs. Doesn't impact gas.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago
[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 10 months ago

I have a '01 Citroen and I'm gonna run it to the ground. She needs a big overhaul now, but for a 190'000Km car my baby is still pretty good.