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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net to c/solarpunk@slrpnk.net

A fixation on system change alone opens the door to a kind of cynical self-absolution that divorces personal commitment from political belief. This is its own kind of false consciousness, one that threatens to create a cheapened climate politics incommensurate with this urgent moment.

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Because here’s the thing: When you choose to eat less meat or take the bus instead of driving or have fewer children, you are making a statement that your actions matter, that it’s not too late to avert climate catastrophe, that you have power. To take a measure of personal responsibility for climate change doesn’t have to distract from your political activism—if anything, it amplifies it.

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[-] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Why wouldn’t they be responsible for the emissions from the fuel they provide? The fossil fuel industry has entrenched themselves and made it as difficult as possible to not use their products. Even to go so far as to influence how our cities are built.

I'd love to not use any fossil fuels but I can’t afford solar panels or a heat pump so I have to either burn gas or my family freezes to death. I have to get my electricity from coal because my family can’t survive without electricity.

I don’t have a choice because of the choices made by the fossil fuel industry.

[-] UnityDevice@startrek.website -1 points 2 months ago

If the providers are to blame for all emissions and the consumers are free of responsibility, then all consumption is equal. If Exxon is the responsible party, then the guy buying the gas guzzler to stick it to the libs is the same as the guy driving a hybrid, as neither is to blame for their emissions.

I understand choosing comfort over living in a cave or dying, obviously, but that doesn't mean we're free of any and all blame. Any time a new climate report comes and it's worse than the one before I understand that my existence and choice of comfort played a part in it . I don't just go "oh that Exxon, smh" and carry on guilt free.

[-] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

No one said consumers are free of all responsibility.

No one said “oh that Exxon, smh”.

Trying to fix climate change by reducing individual carbon footprint doesn’t work because there are a lot of people that:

  1. don’t have the luxury of being able to not use gasoline or solar.

  2. Don’t care

  3. It requires 100% of the world population to take it upon themselves to do the right thing just to fix the smallest part of the problem.

Fixing it with voting/protest reduces emissions for everyone. The rich, poor, industrial emissions, commercial emissions. All emissions.

[-] UnityDevice@startrek.website -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

smallest part of the problem

This is what I'm trying to get across to you here. You've posted the same notion multiple times in this thread. The consumer share isn't the smallest part, it's most of it. All the oil we extract serves to make products, transport products, sell products to the consumer - you. It's not being being burnt for fun.

When you engage in consumption, any amount of it, you're pulling a string connected to a million other strings that mostly end up in an oil well one way or another. The luxury you speak of is in that consumption, not the lack of it.

And if you think otherwise, compare your lifestyle, your lifelong level of comfort to that of someone who spent their whole life living in a hut in Mali, whose lifelong emissions equal a few months worth of yours. Now try to tell that person that you're not responsible for the gas you burn, it's the fault of those that provided you with the option to do it. It's insulting.

[-] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago
[-] UnityDevice@startrek.website 0 points 2 months ago

Please tell me, when it says "Transportation" on that chart, what exactly do you think is being transported, and where?

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