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That will be believable if he doesn't win. The fact that it's cloee is absolutely nuts to an outsider.
It’s only close because of our broken electoral process that gives land more influence than citizens. He didn’t even win the popular vote for his first term.
Not sure how that's supposed to ease the anxiety of Canadians.
Maybe they should build a wall to keep the Americans out
hopefully they will make us pay for it.
National polling has Kamala up by +6 at best. Seems like 44%+ of ~~Americans~~ those polled seem comfortable and supportive of Trump. The fact it is that close at a national level, with all Haitians eating cats rhetoric, still seems insane to an outsider.
Edit: Updated to appease those saying 44%+ of those polled who say they support Trump is not an accurate reflection of Americans at-large. For reference, Trump won 46.1% of the popular vote in 2016 and 46.8% of the popular vote in 2020.
Hilary was polling at roughly the same numbers as close as two weeks before that election he won back in 2016, if I remember correctly. It was looking like a clean sweep for her, and it was anything but. So don't get comfortable yet.
Yep, almost the exact same spread in the national polls, and still lost. Absolutely no comfort for me with numbers where they are.
It's not 44 percent of Americans. It's 44 percent of the people poled. I can guarantee that number is skewed because a ton of left leaning people wouldn't bother wasting their time not getting paid to answer some pole. I know my friends and I are in that boat.
It’s 44% of all those people polled who are registered voters.
It seems insane to us “insiders” too.
Don't pollsters account for this? There's a reason why polling still exists and is talked about, the final results do reflect reality to some degree.
“poled” 😂😅
The point is, anything more than negligible is fucking nuts!
Even if it's 44% of just idiot luddite conservatives, that's still 44% of idiot luddite conservatives too many!
Wait until you find out that 30-40% of Americans believe god magicked the universe into being as is less than 10k years ago and fossils are from noahs flood in which he saved 2 of every animal in a boat the size of texas.
Most polls are performed by calling landlines. The majority of people with landlines are elderly or own businesses.
There is no way the pollsters don't know this and account for it
He’s got 47% of the popular vote last election. Over 74 million Americans voted for him. That’s 74 million too much.
The fact that it's close shows that there is a problem with our voting populace.
Rarely do more than 40% of eligible voters turn out for an election. On top of that, the Electoral College - our representative voting body - can cause the popular vote to be overturned in favor of the representative vote - Al Gore in 2000, Trump in 2016 are examples. Relative to this, in order to win, Democrats have to be polling at 6 to 9% above the Republicans to be a real contender.
The day a Republican loses via Electoral College but wins the popular vote is the day this will change. Frankly, though, it's almost impossible for that to happen due to the way the EC distributes votes to the less populated states.
Fuck our rigged system and fuck this orange baboon.
There’s also the cheating.
Gerrymandering out the wazoo, purging voter rolls, closing polling stations, literally taking away a ballot box as a photo op, passing insane “election ‘integrity’ commission” laws that upend everything else - and that doesn’t account for voter intimidation and outright straight-up fraud that can happen.
All that stuff is easy to do when you’re already in power. And wrong.
Actually without the electoral college there wouldn't have been a republican president in the last 32 years.
Close in swing states. Just means our election system is broken.
They wouldn't be swing states if everyone could/did vote. Look at the typical voting percentage, it's very sad.
currently ~52% unfavorable views of Trump, so he literally does not speak for most of us.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/
Wow, it’s only 52%? That’s so disheartening
Trump is a criminal, a fascist, a literal traitor twice over (Jan 6 + loyalty to Putin over America), and fucking senile. Anything less than 99% unfavorable is ridiculous!
It's absolutely nuts to a lot of insiders here too. I can't imagine a worse candidate, yet about 1/3 of the country seems to think that the choice in this election is a no-brainer, but in the exact opposite way that you would expect. The war on education led us here.
Our system has a vital flaw. The electoral college. It was a necessity at one point given the technology of the time it was adopted, but now it is a relic and needs to go away.