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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/17045970

From Wikipedia

Stampede events that involve humans are extremely rare and are unlikely to be fatal.[5] According to Keith Still, professor of crowd science at Manchester Metropolitan University, "If you look at the analysis, I've not seen any instances of the cause of mass fatalities being a stampede. People don't die because they panic. They panic because they are dying".[5] 

Paul Torrens, a professor at the Center for Geospatial Information Science at the University of Maryland, remarks that "the idea of the hysterical mass is a myth".[5] Incidents involving crowds are often reported by media as the results of panic.[16][17] However, the scientific literature has explained how panic is a myth which is used to mislead the attention of the public from the real causes of crowd incidents, such as a crowd crush.[18][19][20] […] [M]ost major crowd disasters can be prevented by simple crowd management strategies.[22] Crushes can be prevented by organization and traffic control, such as barriers. […] Such incidents are invariably the product of organisational failures.[4]

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[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 36 points 1 month ago

People don’t die because they panic. They panic because they are dying”.[5]

Such incidents are invariably the product of organisational failures.[4]

What's the expectation here? That there should be orderly exits and moderation in people attempting to evacuate an area when they are dying? I'm not seeing how these 2 dots are connected.

[-] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I can't name the last time someone has died in a "stampede". It's probably all the egress and occupancy regulations we have to mitigate them.

[-] Olissipo@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This one in South Korea is pretty recent (October 2022).

A special police team conducted an investigation of the disaster within a few days of it occurring, and concluded on 13 January 2023 that the police and governments' failure to adequately prepare for the crowds, despite a number of ignored warnings, was the cause of the incident.

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