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NTFS doesn't support symlinks, so it doesn't work correctly from NTFS partition. Also it is possible that you can corrupt those files on NTFS partition by doing that.
Basically don't mix Windows stuff with Linux stuff when running programs. It's okay for media.
It does. You can create them on Windows using the
mklinkcommand. It creates a file link if no switch is passed, directory link with/D, directory junction (different thing) with/J, and hardlink with/H. Thentfs-3gdriver has complete support for links.Some Windows programs, like the Scoop package manager, make extensive use of symlinks and directory junctions.
Huh, interesting. Didn't know about
mklink. So with this, can Steam games be used from NTFS directory?Not really, because some files in the wineprefix will have invalid names.
When an NTFS volume is mounted, it implicitly uses the
windows_namesoption, which restricts the character set that can be used in filenames, in order to preserve compatibility with Windows. The specific character in question is the colon -- it is permitted by NTFS, but it's a reserved character in Windows, which means it is also restricted by thewindows_namesmount option. This prevents Wine from creating itsc:andz:symlinks, which are required for Wine to operate.You could try some symlink fuckery, like linking
.../steamapps/commonto the NTFS drive, since all of the problematic files are located outside of that, in.../steamapps/compatdata. Or you could mount the NTFS volume directly to thecommondirectory. If you do, I'd love to hear the results.Relevant issue: https://github.com/storaged-project/udisks/issues/713
That makes sense. Thanks for the detailed reply.
Though you could ask this to OP, they might try it. Personally I don't use NTFS even on my external HDDs.
Yeah it's just games🤷 if push comes to shive i can just reinstall 'em i was just confused by the difference in behaviour depending wether the system or steam mounts it
Well, technically Steam expects a file system to act as a Linux file system. Since some features that Linux file systems support do not exist on NTFS, it doesn't work correctly.
By the way, if you're gonna use Proton for a game, you can backup and reinstall it by using that backup on Linux. You don't have to download it again.
no thats the thing, steam works without a problem. it is only when i do it NOT through steam where i get issues.
but i play mainly on windows anyway, i just wanted to try it out a bit out of boredom and got surprisingly good results.
i just wait how the windows kernel restrictions influence kernel level anti cheat, and depending on the result i may switch to full linux again if kernel AC breaks and devs are forced to use "normal" AC again