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submitted 1 month ago by LWD@lemm.ee to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

Mozilla recently removed every version of uBlock Origin Lite from their add-on store except for the oldest version.

Mozilla says a manual review flagged these issues:

Consent, specifically Nonexistent: For add-ons that collect or transmit user data, the user must be informed...

Your add-on contains minified, concatenated or otherwise machine-generated code. You need to provide the original sources...

uBlock Origin's developer gorhill refutes this with linked evidence.

Contrary to what these emails suggest, the source code files highlighted in the email:

  • Have nothing to do with data collection, there is no such thing anywhere in uBOL
  • There is no minified code in uBOL, and certainly none in the supposed faulty files

Even for people who did not prefer this add-on, the removal could have a chilling effect on uBlock Origin itself.

Incidentally, all the files reported as having issues are exactly the same files being used in uBO for years, and have been used in uBOL as well for over a year with no modification. Given this, it's worrisome what could happen to uBO in the future.

And gorhill notes uBO Lite had a purpose on Firefox, especially on mobile devices:

[T]here were people who preferred the Lite approach of uBOL, which was designed from the ground up to be an efficient suspendable extension, thus a good match for Firefox for Android.

New releases of uBO Lite do not have a Firefox extension; the last version of this coincides with gorhill's message. The Firefox addon page for uBO Lite is also gone.

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[-] LWD@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm sorry you don't follow the logic, but to simplify it for you, I'll break it down: ever since Mozilla picked up an ad subsidiary, they became an ad company. Kind of like how Google is an ad company even though they only have an ad subsidiary too.

And because Mozilla is an ad company, we need to watch how they describe advertisements to us, because they have a huge conflict of interest. It would be bizarre, as you say, to act otherwise.

Do you still follow, or would it be more helpful if I made a post about it on this community to remind people how Mozilla has become an ad company over the past year?

Regardless, that is all I was trying to do: to get people to think a little bit. Stay curious!

[-] abbenm@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm sorry, but you're not at all taking responsibility for your mess, and trying to re-frame this as you being simply too smart for this world is kind of a deadbeat move.

If you think nobody else knew that Mozilla and Google get revenue from ads, like it's something you need to "help" everyone understand, you're underestimating the knowledge of people you are communicating with and overestimating yours.

How does any of this connect to the FOSSpost article you shared from like 2 comments ago? The argument from FOSSpost was originally "Mozilla has been silent", but then it changed to "Oh, well actually Mozilla did criticize it, but since then they've changed, so they need to criticize them again".

Speculating on the meaning of a "silence" and treating it like proof of something is already a terrible way to reason for reasons that seem so obvious to me I would never expect to have to explain it in a serious conversation. There are better ways to gauge their commitments than that, there are better pieces of evidence to set the context, the evidence you are putting forward is mixed rather than decisive... and these are all the things I already said the last time around.

Yet here you are, offering to "help" me follow as if this lowly train wreck was a brilliant point that's being misunderstood out of a deficit of curiosity.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Okay, we are making some progress. You and I both agree that Mozilla has changed into an advertisement company. Can we both also agree that this means they have a conflict of interest with advertisements now?

Do you also understand that it's important to reassess someone's opinion on something after the conflict of interest arises? For example, if a politician got a huge cash donation from a lobbying interest, would you actually be saying "well, the politician criticized the lobby once" and absolutely freak out if anybody said things needed to be reevaluated?

[-] abbenm@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I would emphatically reject that any progress is being made. I'll be moving on to other conversations.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

So you wish to change in order to avoid admitting things change?

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