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Plastic Sugar Teflon Roundup Lead Pesticides Fertilizers
Just a few of the hazardous substances we regularly come into contact with on a semi-daily basis. The cause of the problem is capitalism.
It's not just capitalism. I'm from east Germany and you wouldn't believe how much crap was buried, fumed into the air or pumped into the water in the name of peace and socialism.
Don't forget, Chernobyl happened because of a cost saving measure.
BTW, you forgot alcohol, tobacco, vapes, stress and enforced sedentary lifestyle in your cancer list.
That was the false justification because the actual reason was capitalism.
Cutting costs to make a profit is capitalism - especially when the "externality" is a catastrophe for other people.
Ah yes, the famous capitalist powerhouse Soviet Union.
Well it certainly wasn't communist.
And it certainly wasn’t capitalist, so what’s your point?
It's the same thing that always happens in any economic system where the wealthy, powerful, and corrupt are allowed to remain in charge.
And socialism and communism are also dealing with limited resources and thus cutting cost is also something that will come up. It's not like communism unlocks unlimited resources.
We're on Lemmy, every evil in the world is the result of capitalism.
Doesn't make it less true.
True. But if you scream "capitalism!" Every time something goes wrong, it calls into question how much critical thought actually went into that.
True, too.
I think though the declining health does have a massive connection with capitalism as it enforces a lot of negative impact regarding that.
Personally I'd not be surprised if the whole adhs "pandemic" is connected to the microplastic invasion of the brain, which of course mostly exists due to big oil, greenwashing of plastics and money.
Younger generations drink less and use less tobacco than basically any other generation, so that's probably not it.
I don't know what you mean by "enforced sedentary lifestyle," but young people tend to do activities that don't involve exercise in their free time: computer use, phone use, video games, etc.
I think the fact that obesity is up something like 20% since the 90s is probably related. Young people exercise less and eat like shit, which seems pretty related to rectal/colon cancers.
Skill issue, I'd argue. May I introduce you to the concept of "working in an office"?
Yes, people only started working in offices 20 years ago. 🙄
Honestly the working from home with less walking and more sitting seems like the biggest reason for this since there’s some pretty major dietary differences between all these countries, but they probably have a higher rate of WFH compared to other countries.
Read the article. The trend started in 1990, a time where wfh meant assembling ballpoint pens or prostitution.
“The overall evidence points to lifestyle change," says Shuji Ogino, professor of pathology and epidemiology at Harvard University
A quote from the article. People were starting WFH well into the 80s. It’s part of a sedentary lifestyle and growing obesity problem. Both of which researchers are pointing to as well as microplastics in our system.
No, they didn't. Especially not in relevant numbers: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1450450/employees-remote-work-share/
This only starts in 2015 (I was too lazy to research your idiocy), but even then (very very much after the internet was a very relevant factor) we start at 7% and you can clearly see that there was an upwards trend at that time.
So in short: get your head out of your ass and don't vomit you unfounded stereotypes and boomerisms on the general public.
What’s the stereotype you think I’m playing into? 😂
I literally work from home in the tech sector. I’m a young, fit 30 year old with this exact same set of issues. There’s no problem with WFH, what I’m pointing to is that a sedentary lifestyle which is boosted by people who only walk 5 steps from bed to office (like me) has helped to exacerbate an issue. My parent had work from home days back in the 90s and early 2000s, so we know they existed and started growing, much like this issue with cancer. It’s not because of only WFH, but it’s part of that grouping of a sedentary lifestyle. I think you’re taking my position on that as some sort of attack on WFH, which it isn’t.
Lead and Teflon have gone down since the 90s. I'd say it's mostly plastic. Up and into most all of the 80's everyone drank tap water and sodas/other drinks were all canned or glass bottles.
Then around 1990 everyone started putting their drink in plastic. Then 15 years later for some dumbass reason, people started to buy and drink all their water out of plastic as well.
Problem with PFAS and many other stuff is that it is accumulating in the biosphere. So while the new emissions go down, you still end up being exposed to more and more of them over time. They still get into the water and then into the plants and animals that you eat later.
The largest contributor to the micro-plastics in your body is tire dust, though, it's not new. More of it since the 90s, yeah, maybe there's a threshold?
Doesn't really seem like there's more plastic dust? But since this study looked at colon cancer, maybe inhalation plastic has less of a role?
Old people come into contact with all that stuff too, not just young people.
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Cancer deaths are consistently declining in the US. American Cancer Society's 2023 report
Agreed, the above doesn’t mesh with this variable
My point is that a lot of these things have flooded the market since the early 80s, which would make the tail end of Generation X the first generation that's been in constant contact with these things their entire lives.
Scotch Guard (PFAS) was released in the 50s and everyone went gangbusters spraying it on everything.
Plastic based and molded products started to be seen around 1910 and surged in the 50s after WW2.
Processed foods were a thing since the 1800s with sugars as HFCS added into everything since the 60s.
Not to discredit what you’re saying, but, and this is solely based within the context of this particular headline discussion, it would cause you to look elsewhere. I’m thinking it’s more stress based. I’m working my butt off to evolve my small business just to survive. While we are having success and growth, it takes no less than 16 hours a day Sunday through Saturday to make it happen. I remember watching some family members and other inspiring business leaders as a kid in the 80s working regular 8 hour days and owning two homes.
Further to that, psychological medicine is so far behind and mental health has a major, if not direct, effect on physical wellness.
According to the American Cancer Society's 2024 stats cancer deaths are declining in some areas (ie: lung cancer) but increasing in many others.
you’re conflating mortality metrics with incidence metrics. increasing incidents are very likely biased by improved detection and reporting.
anyway the point is not that cancer is going away or anything, but that you can’t easily say “pollution is giving young people cancer” as the top comment is.
Both mortality and incidence rates are included in what I quoted.
I know, that was my point.
So your point was that I conflated metrics but that had nothing to do with the OPs original post?
I'm still convinced that the aluminum in deodorants are not safe either...
Aluminum is in antiperspirants, not deodorants (usually).
Same. When that news first hit I switched to non-aluminum brands just to be safe.
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Greed, in any form. In any economic model. Greed.
Yes, but capitalism is an economic model that aids and abets greed. Where greed is rewarded almost exclusively.
Which economic model do you prefer?
The distinction between capitalism and socialism isn't always a bright line.
And communism has yet to succeed.
An economic model that doesn't prioritize profit over everything else... which is what capitalism does.
Let me know if you form an opinion beyond "all the dictators told me that this is what communism is, so I have no choice but to believe them".
Can you point to communism succeeding. Anywhere?
Because it's just another greed mechanism where those in charge, being corruotible humans, accumulate power and wealth. So far.
Cuba might have had a good run except our embargo didn't help them.
Capitalism is greed as an economic model
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