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[-] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago
[-] Wanderer@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First thing was that no draft is stupid and even something like starship troopers needing to serve the country in some way to be worth of a vote isn't the worst idea in the world so it's better than that. You don't think there is anything at all in having some means of people that are willing to do more for their country be it military or otherwise should have more of a vote than those that do nothing and would leave it the second it isn't doing enough for them? Some people want to make their country and the world a better place, why should they get less than someone that does nothing.

I'm not arguing that Turing should have been on the front line or that the Bevin Boys weren't serving their country and willing to do everything possible to help their country and should have equality. Just those trying to escape when things go bad shouldn't have the same rights when things go well off the backs of others.

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

Dude "You should have to provide service to the abstract idea that is 'the nation' in order to get your human rights" is just fascism, no matter how you try to spin it.

[-] Wanderer@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

To be protected by that country yes.

See how long you get to have your rights when you stop paying taxes or ignore the laws of the state

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

This nerd thinks that countries are real, and not just a legal fiction invented basically yesterday in historical terms.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

To be protected by that country yes.

LOOKS LIKE FEUDALISM IS BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS scared-fash

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

starship troopers the movie was a literal send-up of fascism and you are sitting here arguing that we should do fascism so absurd it is the realm of actual parody

or you're advocating for the book's straight up fascism. either way, you should eat a bullet, nazi.

[-] Wanderer@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

I'm on about the book.

It's militaristic but it isn't fascism.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

I'm on about the book.

It's militaristic but it isn't fascism.

doubt

Heinlein was a fascist, full stop. Verhoeven didn't even finish the book before he directed the movie because he hated the fascist ideology in it and tried to satirize it in the movie but both the actors involved and a lot of audience members missed the satire.

https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/paul-verhoeven-slams-starship-troopers-remake-fascist-update-perfect-trump-presidency-1201747155/

this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2023
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