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submitted 2 weeks ago by Val@lemm.ee to c/anaval@lemm.ee

I have a theory. (technically I have many but today I'm talking about this one.) Well actually it's more of a visualization. As an anarchist I have spend a lot of time pondering on anarchist society and it's relation to the archic one. This pondering led me to this scale. The Chaos-Order scale. It position political systems on a single point depending on the amount of chaos a society deems acceptable.

I decided to divide the scale into 4 sections. There could be more but i wanted clearly defined borders between them.

  1. Total chaos
  2. Anarchy
  3. Democracy
  4. Authoritarianism (Authy)

These sections are defined by clear boundaries (marked with #):

  1. The minimum required order for society
  2. Anarchy-Democracy border
  3. Democracy-Authorotarianism border

The arrows signify how every section can be entered.

It should be noted that anarchy and total chaos are separated by an impassable border. #1 The minimum order for society. This is because total chaos can only exists for a moment between archic systems collapsing and the formation of an extremely authoritarian society (The rule of violence). True anarchic systems should be immune to this collapse as it requires the complete breakdown of the social bonds between people.

The second border is the anarchy-democracy border. This border is defined by having any form of hierarchical society. It is passed when an anarchist revolutionary class takes control of the entire functioning of society or when an anarchic society collapses back into archy.

The third is the democracy-authy border. This is defined by having some form of democratic control over society. Essentially free elections. Most people should already be familiar with the concept.

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[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Val@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Why would they be any different to the other examples?

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Your graph presents them as being very orderly. They are far from it, unless you count murdering anyone who doesn't fit in as order

[-] Val@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes. Murdering people causing chaos is very orderly. I am an anarchist. I exist in that green-blue part on this graph. I do not think societal order is a good thing. It means disorderly people need to be disposed of. I view the ability to cause disorder synonymous with freedom. Chaos is needed for growth, progress, innovation. Totalitarianism is the definition of order. "anyone who doesn't fit" is "people who create chaos".

Police create order by arresting troublemakers. Totalitarian police create it by killing. Both are order, and, in my eyes, both are evil.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yea, that chaos bit should be on both sides of that chart. Extremes are almost never good

this post was submitted on 26 Oct 2024
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