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You can't trick Everett True (October 30, 1915)
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A place to appreciate the twentieth century comic character Everett True of "The Outbursts of Everett True." Feel free to check out the sticky.
Wow I hadn't looked too closely. I think I need to read up on Gallipoli again.
Elsewhere on the page, this is sus:
someone got got by an old dude
EDIT: Source : turk that met people from Aus, NZ, and did some digging in the past.
Basically, in ww1, the Ottoman/Turkish republic forces (the forces that would go on to create the turkish republic) had a hill surrounded by water. The british wanted to get that strategic outpost, and decided to just slam wave after wave of expendable colonials (Aus-NZ, probably others) into the machine gun nest on top of that hill.
It did not go well. At all. So bad that this made the Aus/NZ people reconsider being part of the empire.
The Turks kept the hill. Ataturk declared that the ANZAC troops were buried at home, because they were our sons as well, so the Turkish and ANZAC troops are buried in the same place. There are ceremonies there on ANZAC day, special biscuits are baked , at least in Oceania, probably turkey as well.
EDIT 2: The song "And the band played waltzing matilda" is an emotive retelling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGlpxviu8PY
EDIT3 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_campaign
turns out loads of british and french soldiers were used and died in the gallipoli campaign.
I remember watching the 1981 movie Gallipoli -- it focuses on a couple soldiers leading up to the campaign, it's pretty depressing (as WWI movies tend to be) but pretty good.
Cohen's "Military Misfortunes" has a chapter on how badly the Suvla Bay landings were handled. To be fair, amphibious landings are challenging.
Wait, I think I also read a case study on how well the final withdrawal was done. I think it was in Barton Whaley's "Stratagem". As I recall, they withdrew everyone and even all heavy equipment without the Ottoman soldiers noticing, leaving behind only one pack animal that refused to budge.