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Because they shouldn't have beeded to be convinced. Trump was obviously the worse choice for Palestine. The most basic realpolitik shouldve told them to hold their nose. They are to blame for putting their ideals over the lives of everyone around them and even those they want to save.
Ok you go say that to their faces. Tell them they should suck it up and vote for an administration that is funding a genocide against their people. Tell them they're being "idealistic" when they speak out against a genocide.
Liberals are amazing.
Ok you go say that to their faces. Tell them that Donald Trump will stop funding genocide against their people. Tell them they are being "unrealistic" when they cite his promise to help Israel "finish the job".
What are you even saying?
Your argument is essentially, "Hey I know democrats are committing a genocide against your people, but if you don't vote for them republicans are going to genocide your people even harder"
Why should they believe democrats? The arguments you're all making lack any sort of attempts to understand the people you're talking about or the situation they are facing. Their families are being murdered every fucking day and Kamala couldn't fucking stop herself from saying shit like "we're going to have the most lethal army" and "israel has a right to defend itself". I cannot imagine the emotions these people are dealing with and the fact that you are belittling them for not voting democrat is honestly disgusting.
Put one in front of me, I gladly will
ok tough guy. Let me know when you've told a Palestinian that they are stupid for not voting democrat because Trump is going to murder their family even harder than Biden.
Find me one and I gladly will, you can watch
Not half as “amazing” as protest voters that think not doing anything will result in a change for the better.
We voted. We tried to stop this. If you didn’t- then you have no place casting aspersions at those that did.
For lots of these people it can't get any worse. Gaza is being absolutely devastated, what do they have to lose? I'm not trying to argue that not voting democrat is a good idea, but I don't think you are engaging with the situation these people are dealing with. It's easy to argue from the sidelines that Trump is worse for Palestine, but I can't imagine having to actually vote for an administration that is actively committing genocide on my home land.
Democrats got absolutely fucking destroyed in the election. I beg you to reflect on the strategies used by democrats and liberals. Have some compassion and try to understand the motivations of voters instead of blaming them for the failures of the democratic party.
You cannot win the support of people by shaming them, it simply doesn't work. Please stop doing it.
No. They deserve to feel shame. This is every bit and exponentially more- their fault as they try to say it is the DNC’s. The blame lies everywhere but at the feet of those who voted to deep trump out.
Now they get to be victims of their own decision.
And trust me when I say this- it will get MUCH worse. Israel hasn’t occupied Gaza yet. But you can bet your ass they’re going to now.