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And I'm being serious. I feel like there might be an argument there, I just don't understand it. Can someone please "steelman" that argument for me?

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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think there are no right or wrong. It became clear that both Democrats and Republic pushing the same exact support for Israel. When it comes to Palestine there are no lesser Evil.

Leading to this election, Israel burned hospitals and people in tent alive in Jabalia, barely any internet access, no water or food enters for almost 50 days now.

They carpet bomb gaza, attack UN bases, and finally declare UNRAWA can no longer work, another UN agency.

This is under Democrats. They already finishing the job.

Now what exactly Trump or republic will do is going to be the same. nothing will change because we are at the worst and there is nothing more they can do to make the situation even worse.

So if they are the same, and the government is not listening then what is the point of participation in election?

[–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You are citing one subject here, Palestine. Yes, maybe under Harris nothing would have been different in regards to this. But it is pretty obvious, that under the orange shitstain's regime, many people all over the world will suffer a lot. The point in participating in this election was to prevent that. You didn't vote the special representativefor Palestine or some shit, but the president of the most influencial country in the world. Your actions have consequences. All Americans who voted for Trump or did not participate fucked not only themselves, but also so many millions of other people over, so I really thing, they should go fuck themselves.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The democrats' hands are not clean. They didn't fight for human rights even while red states and ICE were busy annihilating them. They had four years to do so, a trifecta in the start, and we watched as red state after red state made being trans illegal. They have been transparent about going after gay and inter racial marriage next. The democrats at the national level haven't offered anything in response. We also still have illegal debtor's prisons, child lunch debt, increasing rates of homelessness and abuse of homeless people.

The democrats can't just sit there doing nothing and expect people to vote for them.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Id consectetur dolore eiusmod culpa.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The *only* difference between dems and repubs is one are religious fanatics. People in currently blue states are safe from them, those who are not, are not.

This is definitely something serious that we shouldn’t downplay. I’m of the belief (in agreement with you) that the parties are mostly the same, and the dems just talk a whole lot of talk on domestic stuff and then do worse than nothing. But the christofascists backing trump are far more terrifying than trump himself and they’re not going anywhere, they vastly predate his political career. But in the past they were a weird loud minority, they still are but they’re not such a small minority anymore and THAT is fucking terrifying.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Obviously you can’t go back in time but you should of voted for the down ballot candidates that are pertinent to your day to day life where you live, and then voted third party or even left it blank for the president.

Your local candidates at the state and lower level have nothing to do with Gaza but do decide if your schools are properly staffed and if your potholes are filled, etc.

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

R is pushing more support for Israel so D is the lesser evil. There's a reason Netanyahu wanted Trump. If you think it couldn't get worse than D level support, stay tuned