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There Is No Constitutional Mandate for Fascism
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No, but apparently there's an electoral mandate for it.
Disagreed, the Democratic party suffering a temporary implosion does mean most Americans are on board with what the Republican party is proposing. Exit polls showed a lot of voters were basically at "I don't believe the Democratic party when they say Trump is a threat to democracy and human rights because I think the system will protect us from that, but I do believe I'm spending more on groceries than I was four years ago and I think Republicans will fix that because they're good at business stuff," which I think we both know is a very wrong take on what's about to happen, but that's a population we can work with to resist fascism.
The average American isn't ragingly hateful, they're just profoundly uninterested in anything happening outside their own life (probably because they work 60+ hours a week and are still one car crash or medical event away from being destitute) and really need the "marginalized people will suffer and die" constantly shoved in their face for them to recognize that. That is not good, but I believe it is a solvable problem.
Very well stated. Thank you. There were 16 million people that voted in '20 that sat out and wouldn't vote for either candidate. He got his base to the polls, but that's it, and did not grow his support at all. Dems lost 10 million votes that came out for Biden (what the hell did the DNC do with the $1 Billion??!?!). That's not a real mandate.
Everyone knows exactly what Trump stands for.
There are 74+ million people who want a regressive fascist rapist in power.
While I think this is a good level headed take, you're seriously underestimating how comfortable with fascism the average american voter truly is. If they readily accept "immigrants and queers did it" as an answer to their admittedly worsening living standards, when corporations are no longer even hiding their plunder, they were looking for a reason to turn on them anyway.
This is by design, and the democrats are just as much at fault. The US flag has been synonymous with torture, genocide, death squads, weaponized rape whether a Democrat or a Republican is at the helm, and it's only been the so-called hard leftist minority struggling for change within the US. As long as they reaped a tiny sliver of benefit from global imperialism, they were happy to shut up and tug for a bigger slice of the pie.
Now that they hardly even get the crumbs, parts of the electorate want to continue as usual, another part wants to get the whole world again so the crumbs alone can fill them up. But the US, from the ground up, has been designed so that you can only get a progressive in power by accident. If a fascist can get elected and immediately start wielding near-absolute power, you were always a corporatocracy with a fascist contingency plan.
Shit dude, this lecturing garbage just failed. You need to get the base out, and lecturing them just makes it clear that you regard them with contempt.
Lecturing people about how we need to secure the border and give money to private land developers and other bullshit Republican policies failed, "lecturing" people about the economic and human rights policies our base wants wasn't seriously attempted
Oh, there was no lecturing about policy.
There was just lecturing about how young people don't vote so the party won't listen to them. Basically telling them that they don't matter and their concerns will be ignored at best.
So much copium