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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Exactly.

Harris was dead last on my preferred candidate list in 2020, and it had nothing to do with her gender and everything to do with how little I trusted her due to her background as a cop. And she got hammered in the primaries that year, so I'm certainly not alone. I didn't like her performance as VP (she had a pretty poor public opinion score up until she became the candidate for Pres), and she certainly didn't convince me that she had any interesting policies this time around.

Likewise for Hillary Clinton. She was dead last on my preferred candidate list long before she won the nomination, and she didn't get any better after winning.

In both 2016 and 2024, I voted for a third party because neither major candidate interested me (and it didn't matter because Trump won my state by ~20% in each election anyway). I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people who would have voted Democrat didn't bother voting or voted for a third party because they found her uninteresting. Her policies suck, her campaign sucked, and she has pretty much no charisma. It has nothing to do with her being a woman and everything to do with her being a crappy candidate.

So my vote is on a mixture of:

no real primary, just a candidate switch (feels very undemocratic)
poor, vague policies, especially on the issues people seem to care about most (inflation)
very little charisma
weird obsession with getting celeb endorsements instead of appealing to the average person

Being female doesn't register at all.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

On one hand, I get it. On the other hand, the other choice is orders of magnitudes worse in every category.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Plus Biden had many of the same issues as Harris when he ran... he didn't even want to run. The DNC dragged him out of retirement. I think after the Hillary and Harris data it's become pretty clear a woman is not becoming president any time soon... not even sure if one could win the primary in the next 8 years after the trauma of this election.

[–] dontgooglefinderscult 1 points 7 months ago

I guarantee a woman could easily win the election. They just have to actually not be a far right conservative with a history of extreme racism running against someone that does all of that better.

If your conclusion from "super predator"s and "slave labor supporter"s campaigns is that americans dont like women, you're not smarter than trump supporters.

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