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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/151111

With the dust is settling from their defeat on Tuesday, it's becoming clearer that there was some incredible malpractice going on in the Democratic party. As shown in the tweet I linked, Biden delayed dropping out even though his team knew it was going to be a complete blowout for Trump. Then, we have Harris's campaign spending over a billion dollars and still losing all of the swing states she needed to win.

For all the Democrats who would never vote Republican and would have never voted third party, are you now considering voting third party in future elections? If not, what would it take?

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[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 12 points 2 weeks ago

A decent human being doesn't vote for the most principled candidate, they instead vote for the candidate who would hurt the fewest number of people by winning while (importantly) actually having a chance of winning.

Moral absolutism isn't moral, it results in people getting hurt, because whoever adheres to it decided for themsevles that their principles are more important than fellow human beings. The sooner you realize this, the better.

[-] dontgooglefinderscult 9 points 2 weeks ago

I will never vote for genocide, turns out there's at least 15 million like me. You enjoy being responsible for this genocide and any expansion of it Trump does, as you voted for it.

[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 13 points 2 weeks ago

Now we get genocide and a president who raped kids. He gets off Scot free for his crimes now

[-] dontgooglefinderscult 5 points 2 weeks ago

He was always going to get away with the pointless charges, no president will ever be allowed near a jail, they know too much.

To your first point thats not worse than genocide. Genocide is genocide. It's like infinity, you can't add to infinity meaningfully.

[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago

I tend to think more genocide is worse than less genocide. Nice to see you don’t care about the rapes. Real ally to women and children.

[-] dontgooglefinderscult 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, genocide is genocide. Once you do it, you're no longer human. Doesn't matter more or less. As to your second point, read the username. Trump isn't the first pedo in office, he's not even the most famous. You're in the wrong country if you hate pedophiles in power, we haven't had a year where that's not the case.

[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

Cool, but I was talking about stopping this one. Don’t you want to stop them? Sounds like you don’t

[-] dontgooglefinderscult 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Cool, you weren't though if you voted for Harris, the candidate that promised to continue and expand genocide multiple times in the campaign trail.

If you mean pedos, that's secondary, and won't be stopped via elections. But there's yet to be a lemmy instance that allows discussing that solution.

[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

Well now Palestine gets deleted. And a pedophile is president. You can act all high and mighty, but suffering is the wage you’ve earned for these people

[-] dontgooglefinderscult 6 points 2 weeks ago

Palestine was "getting deleted" either way, and I sincerely don't care about who heads up a genocidal fascist country as my life does not change.

I will still be at risk of death by police, as I am right now. I will still be working with my mutual aid group to help the vulnerable survive, as I am right now. I will still be protesting, rioting, commiting crimes for the betterment of society as I am right now.

Harris wouldnt have changed the risk factor, Trump doesn't.

The only people that would benefit from Harris over trump are moderately wealthy insulated citizens of the empire that have never known struggle. Because those of us struggling have been protesting Biden as hard as we protested trump.

[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

I disagree with your assertion that there wasn’t a political path forward, through the democrats. That option is now gone. I don’t think there is any bridging that gap between us

[-] dontgooglefinderscult 4 points 2 weeks ago

Probably not, but good thing the Dems have moved so far right the Republican party is perfect for you.

Hope it was worth it, the genocide, the millions dead, the police and judicial brutality all under dem leadership.

[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

Haha get off your rocker. Maybe if all you fuckers showed up and voted. But no, maintain your ideological purity while those in the real world suffer

[-] dontgooglefinderscult 5 points 2 weeks ago

"ideological purity"

And this is why you have more in common with Trump supporters than anyone even slightly left wing. You think compromising on genocide is okay.

[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

You think doing nothing is fighting back

[-] dontgooglefinderscult 6 points 2 weeks ago

Whose doing nothing, besides you?

Voting for genocide to stop genocide is stupid. Even you have to know that.

Organize, help those suffering right now, meet a neighbor, go to a protest, participate in a riot. I do all of that, except the last part obviously, wink wink. That's what makes a difference. Voting for a genocidal fascist to stop a genocidal fascist does nothing. It might make you feel better if they win and only genocide poor people, and brown people, instead of you,, but effectively does nothing.

[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

Sure thing bub

[-] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 2 points 2 weeks ago

My question isn't about morality.

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