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[-] Comrade_Spood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

Nah, I'll do you one better. Abolish money, an economy based on mutual aid.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

I'm sorry but a system of currency of some sort is kind of a must in the modern world.

I can't reasonably know enough people who I could help do something so that I could get a phone, an e-bike, all the foods that I enjoy, etc etc etc.

"Abolish money" is a sort of naive thing to say, really. Even in Star Trek, they don't really explain it, because people can't even imagine a society really working truly without any currency, because of the problems it eventually leads to. Like even in Star Trek, Picard owns a huge vineyard and has people working there. Why? I'm sure most of the goods are going to be shared without making profit off of them or anything, but still, it just doesn't really make sense. And they've owned that vineyard for centuries.

Honestly just the systems we have, if we take basically the best of all the systems around the world and take the good and leave the bad and assume very little corruption of non-significant levels and we assume that we actually tax the wealthy properly, I think we could have the world looking radically different in a matter of few decades. I don't think it's easy for any humans (including me) to even fathom the effect it would have if people honestly didn't take as much as they wanted, but as much as they needed, and perhaps a little on top.

I know of a couple of very fair bosses here in the Nordics who actually pay their employees very well and while they make a bit more as the owner of the company, not really significantly more. I don't believe even double, let alone triple, whereas usually tens or hundreds of times more than the average worker. Although these aren't large companies I'm talking about.

I'm just saying there's no need to "abolish money". Money is fine, it's just being hoarded away from everyone who actually need it and would actually use it.

How about if we start with "Abolish billionaires" first, we'll see about how realistic it is about the whole "abolish money entirely" later on, yeah?

Tangentially related video:

Putting Dole Up To £1K A Week | Kevin Bridges: A Whole Different Story

[-] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 days ago

I found the Orville interesting as a thought experiment since their currency was reputation. Not sure how feasible that is, but nice to try to speculate how you'd have any kind of economy post-scarcity.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Upvotes and lemmy awards?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Ever read Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom?

[-] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 days ago

No, but I really should. I like Doctorow.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

It features a similar reputation-based economy.

[-] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 days ago

That's probably the inspiration for The Orville. That show is full of references.

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