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Anti-Trump protests erupt across US from New York City to Seattle
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He stole the election.
He probably didn't. He was polling very well. Very well. Better than his last two elections for a long time. People pretended he couldn't win and I admittedly didn't think they'd do that since that's exactly what happened in 2016.
Simply assuming the election was stolen will be a mistake because that mindset will help Republicans win their next election. The voters wanted an irreparably changed supreme court and Trump functionally immune from prosecution and that's what the voters got.
Um, or not realizing the danger we are literally in right now will be a mistake.
Think of what Trump has literally said:
There won't be a next election. He is a Russian asset meant to take all of our money and kill us. The voters didn't decide anything, Russia did. To kill us.
There are reasons to want Congress to stop him apart from "stealing" the election (which I don't think happened). Particularly the 14th amendment which states insurrectionists cannot hold office.
I reformatted my post for clarity if that helps. I have been trying to gather reputable sources and more info as story unfolds and I think I let it get too messy.
I'm pretty excited to see the left wing numerologists emerge from the woodwork. Don't forget to buy those supplements.
So what exactly is philosophically unsound about what I said?
We can philosophically find the inconsistencies in numerology to debunk it as a science or predictive method. So what am I saying that is illogical?
I think the illogical part is how you cited sources that don’t say what you claim they are saying.
This is called “disinformation” folks
Which article specifically is wrong?
YouTube is indeed a source as people have official YouTube channels. I'm linking a video of someone saying something - that's a source. People who are young think sources are only weblinks because they've never written a bibliography without links in it at all. That used to be the norm.
One piece of this is pretty easily debunked:
"Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico."
If that were true, why didn't they? 🤔
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Mexico
Not only did Trump lose, he wasn't even close.
Fewer people turned up for Harris, likely due to the lower emphasis on vote by mail this year compared to 2020, but he still lost.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Mexico
As for the whole "Starlink hacked the machines!" that's as crazy a claim as the Hugo Chavez claims from 2020.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/11/11/left-wing-conspiracy-theorists-elon-musk-satellites/
"There is no evidence to support the claims spreading on social media. US voting machines are typically disconnected from the internet in order to prevent interference.
Last week Jen Easterly, director of the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, said there was “no evidence of any malicious activity that had a material impact on the security or integrity of our election infrastructure”.
Allegations that there are millions of “missing” votes have been spread by both Democrats unhappy about Trump’s victory and Republicans who claimed the theories vindicate their concerns about the 2020 result.
The discrepancy in the number of votes cast is mostly down to slow vote counting in California, which as of Monday had only processed around 74pc of ballots despite being called for Kamala Harris days ago."
I'm not going through the rest of the claims as it's obviously just so much tinfoil hattery.
Youtube is not a source, anyone can go on Youtube and say anything.
Ditto Facebook, Twitter, reddit, etc. etc.
3 sources of Wikipedia, Wikipedia, Telegraph. Lol.
And still more useful than your sources.
Trump did not win New Mexico despite your claim that they could flip it by cheating, that's not up for debate.
Voting machines are NOT connected to the Internet, starlink or otherwise. Again, not up for debate.
Take your tin-foil hat somewhere else.
I'm sorry, a) your sources aren't official and b) it's factually NOT TRUE.
You are now banned for repeated misinformation.