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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We aren't going to tolerate intolerance in this instance. I personally don't have a problem with communists. But I do have a problem with authoritarian communists. If you think me making this distinction is acting in bad faith, then you might run into more issues than just me here.

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (34 children)

I personally don't have a problem with communists. But

Sounds like you have a problem with communists, or do you think that the country with the biggest army, police force, and imprisoned population (disproportionately of racial minorities) is somehow not authoritarian?

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (45 children)

You might run into more issues than just this thread by casually tossing out the "authoritarian" label like you did on Reddit where the groups in question couldn't defend themselves

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[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The cotton workers and the train workers should seize the means of production via their democracy. If they don't have a democracy, they should perform a revolution to establish one.

Referring to a revolution by the people as authoritarian is like saying the oppression of a king is freedom. It doesn't make sense under closer observation. Using force to achieve freedom does not invalidate that freedom. Once the revolution has been won, the people rule themselves. Any authority over them is a temporary construct of their own making that can be removed and replaced.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

I completely agree, do you see why I linked it in response to the use of authoritarian?

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