Is it currently possible to completely self-host ATProto and interact with BlueSky users? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 days ago by Zak@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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I don't actually want to do this right now, but I do want to know if it's really decentralized yet. Completely looks like it means each of:

A client ✅
A personal data server ✅
A relay ❓
Labelers ✅
Feed generators ✅

It looks like the relay might be the bottleneck. If I'm understanding the protocol correctly, a relay could consume less than the whole network so it doesn't have to be ridiculously expensive to operate, but I'm not finding examples of people doing it.

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[-] surfrock66@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

This is a good breakdown. A firehose relay takes TB's of storage and is not practical for self-hosting, and AppView isn't hostable yet: https://alice.bsky.sh/post/3laega7icmi2q

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

That's enlightening. It links to an article about self hosting a relay, which explains that, as I suspected, a relay does not have to mirror the entire network. It also seems that using a relay at all is an optional optimization.

It looks like the BlueSky AppView is not (yet?) open source. I wonder why nobody has built an alternative yet.

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