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Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/4085063

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[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

russia can end this whenever they want by restoring Ukraine's territorial integrity, if they think the US is benefiting so much from it at their expense. The US is just making it much harder for russia to reach its maximalist goals: to conquer Ukraine. One of those is a war crime, the other one is supporting international law.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

International law is when you support a government coup to replace the pro-Russia government with a pro-EU/pro-NATO government.

[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

International law is when russia does not annex Crimea because of the unfavourable internal affairs of its neighbour. You know, your power ends at "these" borders and from there to here you can't threaten the Ukrainian President.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

The coup government illegally removed the previous president, so they don't get to complain when Crimea illegally votes to join Russia.

[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yea, well, did you hear about how the President escaped and the Parliament voted to destitute him. And when you invade Crimea to do a mock referendum, that's awesome international law. Not even Iran and China recognize the annexation of Crimea, because you can't invade a country and referendum an annexation unilaterally.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Most of the people living in Crimea work for the Russian Black Sea Fleet you dork. They didn't have to invade Crimea, they already had a huge military instalation there. And no one cares about international law, least of all NATO.

Also Crimea has been trying to get autonomy or leave Ukraine for thirty years.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

The parliament had no constitutional authority to vote to expell him without an impeachment hearing, which he never got. It was an illegal move.

The referendum in Crimea is as legitimate as the acting president of Ukraine.

[-] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And tankies love it when America invades another country because that country didn't democracy correctly.

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[-] Grosboel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah yes, the revolution to overthrow the Russian puppet who gave the government dictatorial powers so that it could arrest anyone they wanted for years at a time without a trial, was a bad thing.

I think they just should've accepted their fate while their country became a dictatorial hell hole.

Bro, you're just straight up evil.

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[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago

The US isn't making it much harder, it's making it pay.

[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Indeed, making russia pay for trying to conquer a sovereign country by helping that country defend itself.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago

This is a little ahistorical.

[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't happen if you didn't try to conquer countries

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

[-] Pili@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Alright but what would guarantee Russia's safety after they do that? It's obviously not in their interest. What they want is to negotiate a peace treaty, which is why they are holding their defense line so strongly until their opponents are exhausted.

Oh my god, nobody gives a fuck about international law. It’s a meaningless term used to sling attacks at your geopolitical enemies. Just look at Guantanamo bay, where Americans are torturing people that have never even faced a military tribunal for over two decades! In an illegal occupation of Cuban land!

[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, the brutal hard truth is if your country is neighbor to a much more powerful country than you will be forced to make concessions to that country. Else you will get couped, invaded, have your leaders assisted or be put under crippling economic blockades. Russia sucks but any state in the world would do the same to prevent giving their enemies an easy point of invasion

[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cool, rule by the strong and powerful, acquiescence by the weak is a great take by a leftist, but whatever, I don't care, I'm done here, please stop writing.

I’m not saying any of this is good. It is reality however

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