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[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago
[-] robot@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

China cooperates with everyone. It's a pretty major point of contention among tankies; on the one hand it sucks when you're backing fascists, but on the other hand, at least China isn't going around warring and couping foreign governments (except the one mistake in Vietnam).

[-] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

They're after that "peaceful coexistence" the USSR could never achieve because they failed to see that in order to peacefully coexist they first had to absorb most of the west's manufacturing capacity.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

they failed to see that in order to peacefully coexist they first had to absorb most of the west's manufacturing capacity.

They never had a chance to even negotiate with the International bourgeoisie in the first place!

The RSFSR was literally being invaded by Entente and Central power exeditionary armies from day one and the Soviet Union from the day it was founded was under a cruel international economic siege as well.

Peace was never an option as the only offer was unconditional surrender.

[-] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, was just joking. It was of course never on the table for the soviets, and would be an absurd thing to plan in the first place. I doubt even deng ever thought China was doing anything more than developing their productive forces and buying a modicum of security by opening up. The idea that the west would be stupid enough to deindustrialize itself (by offshoring to a communist country no less) to the extent it has makes sense in hindsight, but I doubt anyone had the foresight to anticipate things turning out quite like this, let alone actually plan it.

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