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If you want to see Nazi late stage-like behaviour, look at Israel.
The Republicans with Trump are more like Mussolini, even down to how Trump seems less of a warmonger than the Democrats but still supports the present day Nazis.
Both parties in the US supporting some kind of Fascism has a very 1930s vibe to it and if the Democrats had won, that would still be the case.
It's just that in places like Lemmy you're exposed to a lot of Political Propaganda from the Democrat Party which is just subtlety-free maximum alarmism (it was their main technique during the election campaign) so obviously the perception it induces is that their opposition is of the worst possible kind of Far Right Populist (ironic when the Democrats in Israel support something a lot more like Nazism at its later most extremelly racist and murderous stage) when the reality, whilst likely bad, is subtly different: as I pointed out and judging by his previous presidence, Trump doesn't seem to be a warmonger, which makes him less of a warmonger that the Democrats often are and hence makes him more like the Fascist Autoritarians of the Mussolini kind than those of the Hitler kind.
It doesn't help that the typically well educated person is overeducated on Nazism and undereducated on all other forms of Fascism, so all far-right populism wanna-be autocrats seem to those people to be like the only system like that they've learned enough about: Nazism.
You really think Lemmy is full of democrats?
impossible.
it's clearly filled with leftists.
Have you really missed the last year of presidential election propaganda here, especially the last month in the run up to the election, as well as the relentless "it's all the fault of those who didn't vote Kamala" memes since!???
I mean, some people were setting up filters to exclude anything with the words "Trump", "Kamala", "Democrat" and "Republican" to get a little respite from the relentless bombardment of political messages and none of that messaging had the Republican-spin.
I'm not saying they're the majority here, but there are certainly lots of them and they're pretty loud.
Also if you notice the voting on my point above that "Trump is not like Hitler, he's more like Mussolini" anchored on him so far not having shown warmongering tendencies even in his last presidency, which is not at all denying his authoritarian tendencies or ability to cause damage to the US, there's a lot of knee jerk reaction negative voting on it (and so far, not a single counter argument, and that includes your post which is all about something I did not wrote in my post), and that's just basically a point on how we should be precise when classifying fascists rather than go into a blind panic fed by hyperbolic alarmism from politically motivated sources - in other words, I'm defending Skepticism (know your sources and suspect those with an interest in forming other people's opinions) and Analytical Thinking (ponder on things rather than rush to the most emotionally appealing conclusion).
"He's a far-right authoritarian fascism in the vein of Mussolini but judging by his track record is unlikely to start WWIII or start mass murdering people based on their ethnicity so is not like Hitler" is just using one's brain in a cold pondered way and hardly amounts to an endorsement of the guy.
Do you know what a leftist is?
That would be somebody who follows the principle of seeking "the greatest good for the greatest number".
Emphasis on principle because a lot of people follow political theories claiming to be lefties whilst not in fact following that principle (tankies would be a good example).
Democrats aren't lefties, they're not even center - "what's in it for me" is their principle, same as all the other Neoliberals.
The lesser evil isn't the greatest good for the greatest number, in fact it's going in the opposite direction, just not as fast as the greater evil.