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McConnell on Ukraine proxy war: "We haven’t lost a single American in this war. Most of the money that we spend, is spent on replenishing weapons, so it’s actually employing people here."[paraphrased] (edition.cnn.com)

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Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

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[-] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't have the time for the classic tankie "reply with a wall of text and deflections", I actually have a real job to attend to. But some main points.

Do you know that the Russian Black Sea Fleet is based in Sevastopol? Did you know that it’s an incredibly important strategic asset? What do nation states do when an incredibly important strategic asset is threatened? Do they defend it?

Do you also know that Russia took Sevastopol from Ukraine back in 2014?

Tell me, do you also support Israel's claims on Palestinian territory?

Do you know what the Russian Federation’s stated causus belli for the invasion is?

Yes.

Do you know what the causis belli for the US's invasion of Iraq was? Are you stupid enough to believe that one as well? Or does believing causus belli only applies to whatever country is not an ally of the US?

What do you know?

I know you should get a gold medal on mental gymnastics and double standards.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you also know that Russia took Sevastopol from Ukraine back in 2014?

Yes? Because the Black Sea Fleet is station in Sevastopol and Sevastopol is a vital strategic resource? Are we speaking the same language?

Tell me, do you also support Israel's claims on Palestinian territory?

Non-sequitor?

Do you know what the causis belli for the US's invasion of Iraq was? Are you stupid enough to believe that one as well? Or does believing causus belli only applies to whatever country is not an ally of the US?

... Okay so you know that UA was shelling Donbass and killing people for years, and the Rada was very openly hostile to the Russian speaking Ukrainian minority, right?

I know you should get a gold medal on mental gymnastics and double standards.

Could I get a sticker instead?

Also that's not a wall of text you dork it's like 10 sentences.

[-] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because the Black Sea Fleet is station in Sevastopol and Sevastopol is a vital strategic resource? Are we speaking the same language?

So if the US has a fleet statinoned in another contry's territory, should they just be allowed to take it?

Non-sequitor?

What don't you follow?

Do you also support US-backed countries to take territory as they see fit? Or does that only apply to countries you like?

Okay so you know that UA was shelling Donbass and killing people for years, and the Rada was very openly hostile to the Russian speaking Ukrainian minority, right?

A Russian-backed separatist group starts a conflict and Ukraine responds.

Does Ukraine not have the right to defend their territory?