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A few years ago my GF was driving with me and we were leaving college and you can take a right on red but it’s in a weird spot so between trees and oncoming traffic coming up form a hill it’s pretty much a blind turn
Anyways the car behind us starts honking because the roads been clear for maybe 10 seconds (spoiler alert: it’s clear until we get the green) but it’s legal to turn right in right you don’t have to. She didn’t want to go cus it was so hard to see
Bonus point, this guy absolutely blasted off past us in the other lane and promptly speeds by an unmarked cop on the side of the road