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[-] Antikythera@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

You're not wrong, but just because the USA and UK got away with it doesn't mean we should continue to let others get away with it. We can't go back in time and fix it but we've got to start somewhere.

[-] StalinwasaGryffindor@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Why are we letting the people responsible for Iraq and Afghanistans current state get away with it? Like if the US wants to arrest a war criminal Bush and Cheney are right there. Same for Blair, or Harper, or any of the other architects of the invasions.

[-] Antikythera@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying they should get away with it, I'm just saying that we shouldn't let Russia get away with it because the United States and the UK got away with it. It's like the Boomer argument that it's not fair to them for student loans to be forgiven because they had to pay.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Would you support a policy of student loan forgiveness for only white people?

[-] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

What kind of stupid ass comment is this?

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

It's not your standard stupidity, it's Hexbear Premium Brand Stupidity.

[-] Antikythera@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Do you not understand why I said that? I would not support student loan forgiveness only for white people because, while I like student loan forgiveness, I can recognize that such a program would ultimately just be in the interest of white supremacy. I wouldn't pull the disingenuous liberal line of "you've gotta start somewhere" as though the policy was tethered to some imaginary future state that it is nominally more similar to but practically much further from.

Likewise, saying "well, at least by holding Belarus to account some countries will be held to account, which gets us closer to all countries being held to account!" is absurd. It promotes western dominance, not the abstract idea of "holding countries to account". Striking only one side saying that it's closer to both sides being struck than striking zero sides would be is sophistry.

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