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submitted 5 days ago by bigfoot@lemm.ee to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

The Fediverse is a great system for preventing bad actors from disrupting "real" human-human conversations, because all of the mods, developers and admins are all working out of a desire to connect people (as opposed to "trust and safety" teams more concerned about user retention).

Right now it seems that the Fediverses main protection is that it just isn't a juicy enough target for wide scale spam and bad faith agenda pushers.

But assuming the Fediverse does grow to a significant scale, what (current or future) mechanisms are/could be in place to fend off a flood of AI slop that is hard to distinguish from human? Even the most committed instance admins can only do so much.

For example, I have a feeling all "good" instances in the near future will eventually have to turn on registration applications and only federate with other instances that do the same. But it's not crazy to imagine that GPT could soon outmaneuver most registration questions which means registrations will only slow the growth of the problem but not manage it long-term.

Any thoughts on this topic?

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[-] th3raid0r@tucson.social 4 points 5 days ago

???

I don't particularly have any issues with them.

But if a user did, they don't have much recourse. I'm talking about that as a structural aspect. Not a moral one.

But sure if you just want to claim this puts me in the !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com community by ripping it out from any relevant context, go ahead I guess?

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 5 days ago

I didn't say you were power tripping.

I was mentioning that community as a way to handle power tripping mods.

It also works, !lotrmemes@midwest.social is being replaced by !lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com after the admin started power tripping.

So it's not just moral, it also has a real impact by allowing users to organize and switch communities

[-] th3raid0r@tucson.social 5 points 5 days ago

Oh okay! I'm sorry about the misunderstanding.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago
[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago

Oh wow you are fast - I just commented with the identical example. :-)

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago
[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago

Fwiw, Blaze I'm sure was saying that the recourse could be to post the infraction there, so that people become aware of a "power tripping bastard", i.e. the lemmy.world mod hypothetical example mentioned earlier.

Multiple times communities have been shifted from one instance to another due to precisely this effect. A recent example is how !lotrmemes@midwest.social now has an alternative !lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com to help people get out from under the heel of the power tripping admin of that particular instance (described in a recent post in the !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com community).

this post was submitted on 13 Dec 2024
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