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[-] Skua@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

How does "the US is also bad" change anything about the argument? The argument was that Russia invading and annexing territory is not an expression of self-determination for the people whose homes are being annexed. The US also doing bad shit doesn't change anything about that because "the US annexes Donbas instead of Russia" isn't the alternative being presented here

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

The thing that amuses me the most about whataboutism is that it's so self-defeating if you think about it for more than just a few seconds. It only makes "sense" from the perspective of someone who thinks that everybody must support their own home country's actions no matter what. Which is an authoritarian thing, not a democracy thing.

It also doesn't account for the fact that I'm not even American, so when I see those arguments my "so what" shrug is doubly intense.

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