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Look I get it, the Dems didn't do enough to win over their base and instead went to the center.
But these Dearborn folks in the article get what they deserve and should really shut the fuck up. They voted for a man who said he would extend his Muslim country travel ban to gaza and still thought somehow he was on their side.
You are a complete a total dumbass if you thought he was on your side. He has years and years of lying out of his ass and you believed him and it's the Democrats fault? No I reject that. He literally stated in 2023 that he would extend his travel ban to Gaza. I feel like I need to take crazy pills or something, these people are insufferable.
No one in the dem party thinks trump was on their side in any way. But they also thought Biden/Harris was a rabid dog that it was important for the parties future to put down (rhetorically). Nobody owes fascism or fascism-lite a vote, and I demand better from dems if they want to continue to exist as a party at all. Centrist leaders are not kings who get to make choices like aiding terrorism and murder, and then walk away without accountability.
Not only was no one in the centrist camp doing anything for the peace vote (the anti genocide side), by shipping weapons the centrists were actively and violently acting against the human rights side and the law. Did you think you were siding with neutrality? The DNC has not been neutral in this at all. They are abetting genocide and terrorism, and violating numerous US laws and the geneva convention.
Besides the muslim vote, the youth and progressive votes were heavily influenced by this issue, and their votes were right there for the taking. The Republicans were always going to be violent and corrupt, but people had higher expectations for Dems, so Dems taking those AIPAC bribes had consequences. This seems obvious to so many but you just refuse to see that you're siding with the baddies, not some sort of neutral crowd you could make better someday.
And do you somehow feel powerful calling people dumbasses? Its against the TOS here and you lost along with the rest of us. Its pathetic that even in utter failure you are all mouth and contrived nonsense that your side has clean hands and was trying to do the right thing.
Part of the problem is that Democrats made it extremely clear that not doing the genocide was off the table, so the choice is genocide on this timeline and genocide on a slightly faster one. I'm still not clear how Trump could speed this up, short of getting more branches of the US military involved directly in the process, American troops getting the🔻 treatment is probably what it's going to take for Americans to lose their bloodlust.
Either way, that's no choice to be made and plenty of people resented the Democrats for acting like they're opposed to this sort of thing while directly participating in the worst crime of this century so far.
Democrats also demonstrated themselves to be prolific liars (maybe not on par with trump, but close) when it came out that they had been pretending Biden had still been functioning for years, do you think that makes people trust you?
I've just told you how he can make it worse. He can exact a travel ban when refugees are trying to come in (travel bans are based on country of origin, where you were born) How dense can you be??
How involved do you actually think we are in this conflict??? This comment makes me think I've been talking to teenagers tbh. We have 100 troops in that region and that started about a month ago.
Travel bans don't do a damn thing for people that can't leave the area they're being genocide in.
Gaza's borders are forcibly closed by Israel.
So, that argument is meaningless.
Secondly, the US could end Israel's genocide with a single phone call, just like has been done EVERY OTHER SINGLE FUCKING TIME BEFORE!
That argument "but we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" is either ignorant beyond belief or made in bad faith to argue for continuing the genocide.
I know it's very difficult but try making an argument that isn't just insulting the other person lmao
Last I checked there have been multiple carrier strike groups deployed over the last year attempting to keep their supply through the Red Sea open. They even shot down a couple of terrorists recently.
They deployed a ton of the naval logistics to do the stupid pier that was only used to launch a massacre in Gaza from too.