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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The problem is that if you do away with gender roles, then a gender reveal party turns into a baby vagina/penis reveal party. It's a creepy concept that is only normalized because of society's hyper fixation on gender roles and we should just get rid of it.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Very often at this point, expectant parents are basing it on the presence of a Y chromosome or not, not on genitals. Does that take the creepiness out for you?

Do you have a problem with them disclosing the gender of their children at all?

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're not disclosing the gender of their children. They also don't take a blood test to find out the chromoses, they literally have a doctor look at the baby's crotch with an ultrasound and throw a party based on what they see.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

People do often take a blood test on Mom which will include some fraction of fetal DNA. They can do a blood test where they just check if there's any Y chromosome (sneak peek) or they can take a blood test which is to check for chromosomal abnormalities which also happens to tell you the sex chromosomes (NIPT). These happen much earlier than you can tell via looking at genitals on ultrasound and is increasingly becoming how people find out the sex of their baby.

People very often say they are having a girl or a boy and give them a gendered name. Do you have an issue with that?

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

NIPT is not nearly as widely used as you're making it out to be. And names aren't gendered. You sound like that reporter asking David Bowie if he's wearing bisexual shoes.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

NIPT is now standard care in the US. It is covered by insurance and offered to every pregnant person. I didn't say everyone gets it, just that it's increasingly used. Something like 25%-50% of people do it and it's growing in popularity. You haven't answered if that would take the creepiness out

Most names are definitely gendered. If they weren't, changing your name when transitioning wouldn't be so incredibly common. You might think they're unnecessarily gendered, but they are currently gendered. You also haven't answered if you're ok with expectant parents and parents of infants telling people the kid is a girl or a boy without the party.