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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 130 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Circle jerking about China is as ridiculous as circle jerking about the US. We've been here before with US vs USSR, but this time everyone has a megaphone and an IQ that can be measured with a ruler.

[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean isn't this more "circle jerking " about dismantling state propaganda? Interacting with those you were told are your enemy?

Besides, people should always celebrate the positives, and look towards them as something that is possible in their country too.

And as an fyi: when we were here before, the workers revolution in Russia was new. The achievements were so profound that workers in North America began demanding similar concessions from our governments. There was a real threat of overthrowing the existing power structures. And what happened? Weekends, literacy, healthcare, just generally improved living conditions. To dismiss cultural exchange as circle jerking is to ignore history and the power that comes with knowing things are better elsewhere, and that you can have that too.

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

when we were here before

🎶Couldn't look you in the eye 🎶

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You keep on coping there little buddy. What's happening is that regular people from both countries are now talking directly to each other, and finding out what life is actually like.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Uhhh, not exactly regular people. From what I've seen from the Rednote, at least my feed is wealthy upper-middle or upper class, while the Americans are from low to middle class.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

not what I see in my feed, might depend on the interests you picked and whom you followed, etc

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

That’s because via GDP those two are at the same level even though they are different levels in their own country.

[–] gubblebumbum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

what was preventing them from doing it before?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lack of will on the part of Americans to engage on Chinese platforms like Xiaohongshu. The looming TikTok ban is what pushed people over the edge.

[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sorry for being pedantic, but those foldable work rulers are exactly 2 m long (at least in MetricLandia), which is, incidentally, the span of IQ values (0-200).

So yeah, it literally can be mapped one-to-one to a (common type of) ruler.

A photo of an IQ ruler

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

200cm, the american one is up to 80 inches 😁

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is a common ruler where you live?

In my country we have rulers with 12 in/ ~30cm as the most common. We also have "yardstick" which is more often a meter stick now. But no foldable rulers.

[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yup. There are like 3 types of rulers: normal (a stick), foldable (this) and those retractable metallic strips.

Sticks are usually either 15 or 30 cm, while the foldables are literally always 2m.

The coils are the most ubiquitous, but I orefer the foldavles for most things since they tend to fall undet their own weight when measuring longer distances. These sre either 2 or 5 m I think.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We have the coils too, except we call it a measuring tape.

We also have have a flexible soft version used for measuring human proportions for clothing, but it's called a "tape measure" for some reason.

I wish we had the foldable kind, that sounds useful.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Ironically the 2m folding rulers are called "inch-stick" in German

[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah.

The 30 cm is ubiquitous for officework or drawing, while this is for tiling floors, doing plumbing, measuring walls, roofs, etc. etc.. There are also those retractable coils (usually 2 or 5m), but they tend to break easily and collapse under their own weight, so they're not as useful for some things.

I can find one like this in basically any hardware store with few exceptions (Austria). They're almost exclusively 2m in length (I literally haven't seen a longer or shorter one ever in my life)

Also, a meter stick sounds workable, but borderline impractical.