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The Russian commander of the “Vostok” Battalion fighting in southern Ukraine said on Thursday that Ukraine will not be defeated and suggested that Russia freeze the war along current frontlines.

Alexander Khodakovsky made the candid concession yesterday on his Telegram channel after Russian forces, including his own troops, were devastatingly defeated by Ukrainian marines earlier this week at Urozhaine in the Zaporizhzhia-Donetsk regional border area.

“Can we bring down Ukraine militarily? Now and in the near future, no,” Khodakovsky, a former official of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic, said yesterday.

“When I talk to myself about our destiny in this war, I mean that we will not crawl forward, like the [Ukrainians], turning everything into [destroyed] Bakhmuts in our path. And, I do not foresee the easy occupation of cities,” he said.

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine linking kyivpost as if it's a credible source. Might as well link an article from Weekly World News next.

edit: I love how downvotes immediately come in when you point out the obvious, as long as the article says what people want to hear they all of a sudden stop caring about credible sources

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

What part of this is incorrect?

"Can we bring down Ukraine militarily? Now and in the near future, no,” Khodakovsky, a former official of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic, said yesterday."

The Kyiv Post is quoting Alexander Sergeevich Khodakovsky from his telegram channel, the Russian commander of the pro-Russian Vostok Battalion. He was involved in the uprising in Donetsk back in 2014 and continues to this day to be involved in the Ukrainian war.

https://t.me/s/aleksandr_skif?before=2851

In this case, they are quoting a primary source. So irrespective of your opinion of their journalistic integrity, this appears to be factual information.

Here's another source from Reuters that discusses the Ukrainian Marines retaking Urozhaine:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-recaptures-urozhaine-donetsk-region-russian-forces-2023-08-16/

This is a typical poisoning the well ad hominem.

[-] Fuckass@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Sorry but I don’t take pinko ruskie claims seriously. It’s kremlin dezinformatsiya

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Well the information has to come from somewhere, and a war between two sides some of the information has to come from the other side otherwise it's all propaganda.

The trick is to determine what's true or not.

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