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I'm not so sure laughing at suffering is a good look. Pretty rude overall.
After they fucked up this badly? I think it's justified.
Idk. If its not constructive criticism then why would it be justified? To me it looks like being mean for fun.
I'm not laughing at suffering. I'm laughing at lame Lemmy Democrats who are fucking crying and making up shit about how horrible their life is. It's bullshit.
You all are a bunch of keyboard social justice warriors who try to ban anyone who disagrees with you. You all talk about "eating the rich" even tho you all make more than the average US citizen.
The whole fucking reason you all lost, is because you are out of touch with REAL suffering. The REAL struggles people face.
You all fucking crying about how your $80,000 a year salary for your first fucking job is sooo hard, it makes you a fucking pathetic joke. Most people would fucking kill to make that much.
But you all are so out of touch, you don't think that's much money.
That's why you lost the election. And you deserve it.
So no, I'm not laughing at real suffering. I'm laughing at the fucking lame Lemmy's who think that making 80 grand a year, while working from home is "suffering." Those who think that the latest Pokemon Go update isn't as fast on your phone, is "suffering." Those who are mad because they have to work so they don't get to watch some Twitch stream live, is "suffering."
And I'll keep laughing. :)
Guess I am just hallucinating my constant pain, disability, and the turmoil I am currently going through with my insurer because of what trump doing, and how it affects a treatment I literally need to live. Clearly his actions haven't changed anything but people not putting pronouns on their e-mail.
You are the one out of touch here.
I'm sorry you are going through this. But what does Trump have to do with this? He didn't cause those things. He's not pressuring your insurer to not help you. So what is it about your pain and disability that was caused by Trump?
Again, I'm sorry you are going through that. And it sounds tough. I just don't understand the Trump connection.
Stay strong, friend.
Trump is the one who fucked up the treatment I need to live. Literally his orders have stopped it.
The point of saying the pain, etc., is because you were saying everyone here are privileged to the point where they complain about "only" making 80k a year, and live easy lives, with little struggle. There are tons of people on lemmy who are poor, and working class, and marginalized.
Ok, which order stopped it? What treatment did he stop?
Sure, but not the majority of Lemmy users.
Tons of conservatives are poor, and working class, and marginalized. Yet Lemmy hates them with a passion.
I am not sure which one, the letter just says "under current executive order", and it killed a program that granted supplemental coverage for a variety of different drugs, and other treatments, that meet whatever requirement, so drugs I take for polycystic kidney disease are now denied to me. Also another long term therapy for complications with my spina bifida might get the axe, the order was blocked, but since this requires there to be secured future funds for them to approve it. Now they are looking at the instability of this situation as a reason to drop it until things stabilize.
Many conservatives around me are now deeply regretting voting for trump, because it has put their lives in turmoil, for similar reasons to mine, I live in an apartment building for people with disabilities. When you vote against basic QOL, even against your own interest, often because you were too ignorant to know anything about what you voted for (many people here are saying they heard that he supported one, or two, things they liked, and wanted to MAGA, and are not "political enough" to know everything else, and didn't really know what tariffs are), and supported out-right bigots, and numerous other things, well, you deal with the consequences of it. Reactionary party support for shit like this will earn you hate. No I am not defending the DNC, they are corporate own imperialists who are responsible for the disenfranchisement of the working class. However voting for bald faced fascism shows a lack of empathy, and therefore you lose a lot of empathy for your own plight. Trust me, I live in Appalachia near norther WV, it is very poor here, very working class, and very desperate, very conservative. A lot of people here are now regretting their vote because they lost a lot of compensation, at their jobs, due them changing the budget to get a year+ worth of materials before the tariffs. Even the c-suite had to take cuts, and several major employers are eyeing moving to the EU. Some are still doing strong mental gymnastics to justify their support, however, as their income dwindles, and they struggle even more to support heir families, hopefully they will begin to look for alternatives. The tide is shifting back to being in favor of unionization, and general collective bargaining, so there is hope.
You should look further, because I haven't seen nor heard of Trump doing anything like that. So it may not be a Trump order.
I'm not seeing that in my area.
There is nothing immoral about being wrong about something or being out of touch. I don't know about every event in the world right now and neither do you. We all have bubbles.
Even if you conceptualize it as ignorance I still see it as rude.
Also it'd be pretty amazing if you actually understood the election to the point of being able reduce the winning and losing to such a concise statement. I don't think that's possible. I am not convinced you know why the election was won or lost. I don't think anyone can really know that. It's too complicated.
I think the fear of Trump is reasonable. Maybe not every person is grounded, but many have good reasons to be upset. Lots of folks are upset at immigrants because of lies from the right. I don't judge those people. Some folks may be unduely upset about Trump due to lies from the left.
Many people have grounds fears of Trump. Any trans person obviously. Anyone who relies on a government program that may be seen as 'inefficient' would be worried.
I think forgot to try to empathize and that's why it feels okay to laugh at folks. I see it as rude. It happens though.
Of course now. But when that person tries to ban you are remove you because you have a different point of view than them, then the line gets crossed.
I don't.
I get the reaction to being banned or removed.
I would love for you to engage with why I think some people's fear is reasonable. Otherwise it just seems like you are dismissing folks for no reason.
Because I don't think Trump is going to change too many things. Everyone said these exact same things the first time he was prez. The world was gonna end. We'd be put into deathcamps. He would make a law banning democrats from every running for office, etc.
And here we are. And here we'll stay. And in 4 years, we'll have a democrat president, and republicans will be crying. Just like it has for the last century. lol
I think there are many reasons to see this time as different. Trump is immune from prosecution, and is already trying to do many things that are seen as illegal by many states.
Project 2025 is a solid plan that if successful, could set our countries course for a while. He has already made healthcare harder for any Trans folks especially by trying to make it much harder to say you are trans on official documents. (Though it is funny that everyone in the country was legally female for a bit.)
Also the pardoning of violent criminals? Its a strange time. It is reasonable for folks to find worry in this.
Folks that know Palestinians. Devastated. Just because those folks don't see the world like you do doesn't mean they are unreasonable. Your worldview isn't perfect. They aren't necessarily safe. They would likely have been safer with Kamala. Even if you don't belive in their cause.
I don't think their fear is funny. I think there are many ways a reasonable person could be upset.
Dude, drop it. The world is not gonna end because someone doesn't get to use different pronouns in a work email. I don't care. lol
I see, no worries homie. We can't be critical everyday.
You don't gotta keep responding.
Work email pronouns had nothing to do with what I said, so you still haven't convinced me of anything. If you don't strongman my argument we'll talk in circles.
You are ignoring actual harm to people and laughing about it. I'm not here to judge that. You got here and believe what you do, and I respect your journey. Though I will say you are currently looking quite rude.
And you haven't convinced me of anything. I feel the way I feel. And you feel the way you feel.
I told you I don't laugh at actual harm. I laugh at the imaginary harm that many Lemmys thing are real.
It's totally ok that we have different viewpoints, friend!
Do you feel like you've actually engaged in this? I don't know. You're allowed to think differently, but you don't ever back yourself up. Why disagree if you are going to make your points look so lame in the eyes of Lemmies? You don't want to convince anyone? I feel you are doing a disservice to your ideology.
Conservatism has real points in it. You make me feel like there are none.
I am under no obligation to back anything up. This is a forum on Lemmy. It's not some political debate club at Harvard university or some think-tank commercial feature for PBS.
I don't care if the points I make look lame to Lemmy. I don't care if I look lame to Lemmy.
Why are you taking this so seriously? It's Lemmy. LMAO
Ah I just like to argue. I thought you may say something interesting. You seem to operate in a strange one foot in one foot out kinda way. Like you definitely want to be here. It means a lot to you to be here. But that meaning doesn't come from changing minds. You are content to post about a world we don't see and give no evidence for it.
Idk, I just wouldn't do that so I'm curious on why you do.
Trust me, this rarely happens when I speak. Both on Lemmy and in real life.
It's cool, but it doesn't "mean" anything to me at all. I've been banned. Had comments removed. Meh, It's Lemmy. I'll just keep on posting stuff I think is interesting. I don't care what people think too much.
Thanks, friend!
Good luck out there homie.
Thanks, friend!
This's a new acct but I've been around awhile, seen you plenty. liked your posts, seen lotsa, lotsa haters. Watching you take yer victory lap considering how much and how hard libs were doggin you is enormously satisfying for me, i just wanted you to know that :D
Thanks, brother!!
What's amazing to me is reason I face so many bans and hate. It's because I post linked to news articles from major news orgs. I don't advocate violence. I don't advocate racism I don't advocate bigotry. I don't write the articles.
I post links to news articles. And the majority of Lemmy wants me permanned from the instances. LMAO
Stay strong and stand your ground, friend. Standing up for diversity of opinion is awesome!
I've met lots of poor Democrats who've bought into the party BS hook, line, and sinker, too.
The important thing is that it was the wealthy elites in the party that foisted this mess on us. Especially Biden, who said he was going to be a one-term president and then changed his mind, despite the fact that his own party was telling him that the polls were massively against him.
Exactly! Well said, friend!