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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by nei7jc@lemmy.world to c/cars@lemmy.world

Title. Genuine question. Intended for people owning cars. That's all.

Edit: Thank you to everyone pointing out that my comments are rude and that I was being an asshole. I lost sight of the intention of this post. I will stop replying in the same manner.

Edit 2: imma downvote those comments I guess cuz there's no karma fuck reddit

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[-] MrZee@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

You also just said

Nope. I am 15, nice observation. I have lived far away from things before, where driving is the only option. We all agreed we needed to move ASAP, so we weren't driving half an hour to school every day. So glad I'm riding my bike to school now. Public transport is relevant here, but I'm biking.

So, the issues aren’t prominent as long as you move out of a rural area?

[-] nei7jc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, if you live in a poorly mapped out city with car dependent infrastructure, then you're going to need a car, sorry for the confusion.

[-] MrZee@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Side comment: I just looked at your profile and saw your most recent comment regarding you realizing you came in with a close mindset and now realize that. Good on you! You’re young and learning. I totally get the general “cars bad” mindset. I wish that at least US cities and major suburbs were designed to be livable without cars. Some are, or at least some areas are, of course, but cars and car infrastructure almost always comes first.

Getting away from needing cars would be awesome and it should become a bigger goal in the US. I don’t disagree with you at all there.

Keep in mind that the US is BIG and, from an area perspective, a vast majority is rural. Out there, cars really are a necessity. Maybe there are long term solutions to reduce the dependence on cars in rural areas, but I have a hard time imagining what they are. Keep in mind that rural means that there simply isn’t the population density to support public transit because, pretty much by definition, rural areas don’t have centralized locations for people to be picked up at; small numbers of people are going long distances to a variety of places.

That said, cities and big towns are the “low hanging fruit” for reducing car reliance with by far the largest return on investment.

Edit: it’s great to be passionate and have goals. It’s great to want to reduce or eliminate reliance on cars. But, as I think you’ve learned here, you need to keep perspective on what is practical and recognize the system people are currently living in. When you revcieve new information that doesn’t fit with your view, think about it and learn. It doesn’t mean you are wrong or your overall goal is a bad one, but it’s good to understand the perspective of people you disagree with. In this example, take the reasons people give for needing a car and try to understand those reasons. Assuming that people are giving vailid reasons, try to figure out how we might be able to change things so that those people don’t need to rely on cars. Don’t tell them “just ride a bike”. In many many situations, that isn’t reasonable. Instead, try to figure out how we, as a society, can fix this over the long term.

Cheers!

[-] nei7jc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for taking the time to lecture some kid online. I'd probably do the same.

[-] MrZee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe look up what rural means.

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