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'Should be terrifying to everyone': Prosecutor fired by Trump delivers blunt warning
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This is what pisses me off about all the people who kept talking about how the Democrats were failing to get voters engaged in 2024.
If the Dems weren't doing the job, what was keeping you from stepping up?
Its like there was a fire going on and people were complaining the firemen weren't doing enough instead of jumping in and helping.
The Harris campaign spent a billion and a half dollars on "getting voters engaged" and she still lost anyway. All the phone-banking and door-knocking in the world can't overcome the fundamental problem of refusing to adopt policies the people actually want!
So please, explain to me exactly what the fuck kind of "stepping up" you expect randos from the Internet, who had no ability to affect the campaign's platform, to actually fucking do?!
Idk, maybe voting against the dude who straight up said he would be a dictator and you'd never vote again?
That wasn't enough for the grandparent commenter, who was trying to shame people for not getting other people to vote too.
I'm not a politician. I developed an entirely different set of skills. Throwing away my career at the potential of reskilling is absurd.
And Dems weren't doing their job. I'm tired of people pretending like that's acceptable. I canvass. I get people ready to vote. I do my part.
I can't even tell you the last time a Dem policy benefitted me directly. What I have in common with them really just boils down to them being the only opposition right now. I pushed Harris like we had to and I'll never forgive them for running such an unlovable candidate. They knew what they were doing. The second there's another serious option I'm gone. Dems complete lack of opposition makes them complicit in everything that's happening.
AOC and Omar have entered the chat.
If you don't like the Dems that are in power now, you can primary them. If we get another election.
How long until the dems have effective leadership putting people like AOC and Omar in the spotlight and building around them rather than keeping them on the fringes?
Probably the part where I didn't receive over a billion dollars in donations to actually get media attention. A lot of people have been campaigning to get people to ditch the Democrats because they're controlled corporate stooges for the last few decades, I think you were shouting at them for supporting third parties at the time.
And they should have been shouted at. The current system does not allow for third party viability as disappointing as that is.
Read up on how Hitler took power in the first place.
A lot of people hated him, but they hated other politicians more and decided that letting him have a go at it wouldn't be a bad thing.
If you thought a third party was going to come to the rescue in 2024 you have my abject sympathy.
The problem?
Neither party was ever going to save us.
Assuming Harris won, she would just keep riding Bidens policy, and chant "I'm not Trump" and pretend it was good enough.
Until Trump ran again, and again... Dems never changing, except keep moving to the right.
I mean... Dick Fucking Cheney and her teaming up? Fucking christ.
A third party had no chance of coming to the rescue in 2024 because everyone has attacked third parties in the U.S. for at least the three decades I've been alive, and I'm pretty sure for another few decades before that.
Also, you're conveniently ignoring the economic conditions of the Weimar Republic that made the rise of Nazism in Germany an inevitability. Just like all the libs ignoring the economic conditions in the U.S. that led to the rise of Trumpism.
So, we agree. There was no other option except Harris and people didn't vote for Harris because they decided it was more important to blame the Dems then fight the actual fascist.
But yes, I'm sure that the same folks who couldn't get Bernie nominated in 2016, 2020, and 2024 will become political savants now and organize a powerful third party in less than 24 months.
I think you're looking at it from the wrong angle. The problem is that the moderate libs have consistently shut down third party and leftist options for the last few decades. Since the Democrats haven't had any competition, they have abandoned their constituency, and now work exclusively for corporate interests. By constantly voting for the "lesser evil", you have allowed them to blossom into an evil that the average American cannot distinguish from fascism.
I'm not expecting anyone to organize anything. At this point, I'm just pulling up a chair to watch the collapse. But good job insulting the Bernie Bros who tried to pull you out of this downward spiral, it's good to know that the center will punch left no matter what.
The Dems rightfully got blamed for being genociders.
They also were rightfully blamed by ignoring the working class demands.
My analogy is that it was like someone threw a molotov cocktail through your window, but you let the house burn down because the window didn't stop the bottle.
That'll teach that window.
Why should we fight for democrats when they don't fight for us?
The Democrats were never going to meet this moment.
So, what's your plan?
Just roll over and let Trump do what he wants?
Create a viable 3rd party in 24 months?
Give me some options.
a capitalist society will always inevitably devolve into fascism, as short-term profit-driven thinking dominates decision making
the DNC is right up there with the GOP in terms of causing this clusterfuck. decades of neoliberal policies have left Americans financially insecure which has caused a total loss of faith in institutions over the last few decades.
in a good decade, a little crisis here and there is maintainable. but when you have dramatic knock-off effects of new technologies combined with global economic shockwaves like COVID and the Ukraine war, all of a sudden the establishment hold on power starts to slip. the corporate world doesn't care about democracy. they're more than happy to switch over to a fascist government- there's a very high potential ROI in bending the knee.
Trump took advantage of this and beat them. We saw the corporate world switch sides during the inauguration. He is now purging the federal government of any elements that may oppose his further renovations.
This problem did not start last year in November. This problem started decades ago and spans generations.
It's unfortunate but it's the reality. We as a society are sick. We are fundamentally sick and getting worse. We ignored it and persevered, but it can only be ignored for so long. We are now starting to see serious symptoms, like a person who gets a fever and starts shivering.
Trust me, it's going to get a hell of a lot worse before it ever gets better. We're in for a rough decade.