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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

And as a Canadian, I hear Americans talking about how we wait so long for care.

We do, but not for anything that is life threatening.

I don't mind waiting for an x-ray for something routine if some kid needs an x-ray to figure out if his skull is cracked or something.

[–] commander 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Rest assured, that's just rhetoric peddled by and for useful idiots to "justify" why things shouldn't change.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

useful idiots

Am I wrong, or is it cruel for these people to say "I don't want everyone to get the healthcare they need because then I might have to wait when I need something" ? I keep mulling it over and this reasoning strikes me as a complete disregard for the well-being of others... Which is such a boring manifestation of evil

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm an American and a regular appointment is still likely a couple months out because of insurance.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

So much better!

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

My response to wait times is to train more doctors, nurses and lab techs. Denying poorer workers from having access to healthcare so that wealthier people don't have to wait is cruel and a banal evil.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

You will not find any disagreement by me.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

oh yea, emergencies, cancer diagnosis usually doesnt wait that long in EU too, just regular appts. even in the states if your own "state subsidized healthcare, you can also be waiting months or even almost 6 months for a appt, secondly you will also encounter rude employees that just hangs up on you too. i was in an insurance based medical facility/hospitals, its barely occupied most of the time, so i think the insurance just like justfying the increasecost of the insurance by building unnecessary facilities, before 26, my previous insurance was doing just that and still doing to this day.

also some insurance in general are allergic to older people too, they price them out, they have no need to "drop people from thier insurance" , when they can just price them out, this also helps them skew results like denials or getting terminated from thier insurance.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

All good points.

I would, 100% of the time, rather live under a social triage of conditions, where those who have the most need, get the most and most immediate care. If I'm not going to die from my medical issues, I can wait.

From your description and what I understand of it, American medical triage is less about who needs the most care, and more about who has the most money.

I'm a first aid trained person. Changing the way people get triaged for what their issue is.... That's a good way to get people killed.