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Sigh, Japan...
Woah woah hold on there buddy. You wouldn't blame Australia when some Australians are sexual assaulters would you?
This, I agree with.
For this, I'd like to see the documentation you cite.
This is specifically for train groping, for one, and literally has a whole section on what they are doing about it. I specifically wanted to know what was being cited here:
I specifically was asking for documentation about "Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented". The article provided mentions the efforts they are making.
You make the claim, you provide the evidence.
The actual reason I ask is that, if this specific sort of thing exists, it would be good to specifically target and fight it.
Yes, it's like that in much of the world. Australian laws until recently silenced SA survivors for example as I linked down below. It's good that you're learning about it and engaging with it. Rape culture must be stopped world over.
this is literally true to everywhere on earth
Yes and some places (like Japan) are even worse.
They have women only passenger trains on the subway because they need to not because they want to. Those don’t exist in most western countries that I know of.
Go muddy waters elsewhere
I mean, I read this and went, “Goddammit, Osaka,” when I read where this takes place, and I live in Osaka.
Ahhh, that sucks to hear. It seemed like such a nice place while there, but I guess that's benefits of tourism. All of the cool parts, not around long enough for the bad :(
Any place has good and bad. But it hits different when it’s a place you live.
I mean, the vast majority of people here are not committing sexual assault. There is certainly work to be done with the justice system regarding reporting and prosecuting crimes, but it's not like Japan or Osaka or Tokyo just condone SA.
Societies today are extremely large, which means it doesn't matter if a majority does something or not, if a per mille does it's a massive, society-defining problem.
Australia doesn't have a well known problem with groping women on public transit as far as I'm aware.
I specifically mentioned Australia due to its rampant rape culture. Just because you're not aware of it doesn't mean it's not happening.
Just because I'm not aware of it also doesn't make the original post from False any less unexpected, I acknowledge my own ignorance but the point still stands. If it becomes known enough world-wide that Australia does indeed have a rampant SA problem that it become associated with the country as part of it's "culture", then it won't be any weirder to so a "Sigh, Australia..." when an article comes up talking about it.
I think the point he was making is it’s never good to assume the whole country is like this when it’s individuals doing it, and I have to say I agree. That’s the kind of reasoning that led to people attacking Russian-American businesses and homes when the Ukraine invasion started
It is known world-wide. Western media has been covering it for years. I don't live in Australia and I know about it.
Minimizing the rape culture of Australia only hurts its victims.
Literally no one is doing that. There was no excuses or apologies made for sexual assault taking place in other places. There was no "minimizing" the fact that it happens elsewhere. You are perceiving a slight from nothing, or at best a short post of exasperation that it happened again.
When I say minimizing, I don't mean you personally making excuses or apologies for SA. Of course you wouldn't do that.
I'm referring to the societal minimization where despite years of news and research, people still don't acknowledge it as a widespread problem.
because people don't know about it?
it's not like we didn't acknowledge it out of malice.
Exactly comrade. It's not active malice, but the the lack of acknowledgement that constitute much of rape culture.
It seems you didn't quite understand me. My bad, i should have formulated it in a better way. Let me reformulate it again:
How can i acknowledge something i don't have any idea it exists?
We weren't able to acknowledge Australia's rape culture, because we didn't know it was a Problem.
You can't expect me to have acknowledged it previously, when this is the first time I've ever heard about it
As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change.
I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over.
Dude, stop for a sec and breathe.
This is exactly why everyone thinks you ~~hexbears~~ Lenin apologists are obnoxious. You made a specious argument which seems intended to pull a third nation into a completely unrelated story for no reason and then aggressively argue about it when people call you out. Take the L and try to contribute something other than rage for a bit.
Bit off topic here, but what's a hexbear? First time I've ever encountered that term.
Woah woah woah. Who's a hexbear? And stop minimizing rape culture.
My mistake. The same shit applies to lemmygrad, though I guess the lack of actual brigade makes it one tier less obnoxious.
Sources: it is known.
Common lemmygrad L
There are several countries where I've heard of this being a problem, but I've never heard this about Australia. Care to share some resources about what you're referring to?
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/1060020412/australia-parliament-assault-sexual-harassment
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/12/myths-make-it-almost-impossible-for-victim-survivors-of-sexual-assault-to-find-justice-in-australias-legal-system
https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/domestic-violence/sexual-assault-in-australia/contents/summary
It's been a major, major issue reported on by news organizations all over the world, and acknowledged as a huge problem by the Australian government as well...
I rarely grope people, I usually keep my hooves to myself!
But do you often spit on people?
Depends, are they in Bali?
Lmfao, as if rape and sexual assault don't happen literally everywhere on earth there are men.
But hey, if you single out Japan, that means you can avoid acknowledging the misogyny in your own country/culture right? What a neat and not at all obvious trick that is...
Because it's just a male thing, right?
Assholes are assholes, it's not limited to one sex.
Calls out someone for singleing out a group then proceeds to single out a larger group.
Weird take ig